No More Time Bombs, VRF just released 1st fully cloned 3186 and 116710LN

[ChinoWolf]

Is that a confirmed shot of a v10 though? Or a reused photo of a previous sub? Not many people have a v10 yet, someone posted in the v10 thread just today that they opened their watch and it has a VR3135 with blue hair spring

That's strange mate because I have seen many many photos of V10 and all of them are SA3135, from different sources as well. Perhaps someone can clarify that. Trusted dealers are not supposed to reuse old photos.

 

[Princewilliam]

That's strange mate because I have seen many many photos of V10 and all of them are SA3135, from different sources as well. Perhaps someone can clarify that. Trusted dealers are not supposed to reuse old photos.

He hasn’t posted pictures so can’t confirm. Hopefully they haven’t switched back to SA3135, I’d like to see a few ppl posting movement pictures once they have v10’s

I just had a look on a few TD websites and you are right, all SA3135 ...sigh


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[Hazing]

Guys, just received news from kobe and a bunch of dealers in China that VRF has released a fully cloned 3186 and 116710LN. The movement is a fully clone, just like the SH3135 and supports reverse date through fast jumping hour hand. Here are the photos of the movement and watch.
I know a lot of people are waiting for ARF butł looks like VRF just beat Noob and ARF to that. Overall I think the movement is a big step up, dial is good quality and has slightly rounded markets, hands should be interchangeable with gen. Case and bracelet finish is just okay. The bezel insert looks shitty to me. We should be able to see detailed pictures soon from TDs. Expert please chime in.

Yeah, but you can get LN gen insert without breaking the bank.

 

[Hidenjoy]

498 dollars

http://www.trustytime02.cc/index.ph...=20650&zenid=24fe857b13a406667de3026a9baa15b5

 

[Hazing]

Gamechanger!

will swap all the parts from my Noob 904l Franken to VRF ...

- Gen Bezel/Inlay
- Gen Crystal
- Gen Date
- Gen Hands (arrive tomorrow)
- ARF Clasp (from Daytona - Code 7CD) to VRF or Noob Oyster will look what fits better at Sels/Lugs

and for another look i have the 904l Jubilee

I like the ln on the jubilee. The never should have discontinued that. Rolex should have just updated it to the 126710ln.

 

[Hazing]

498 dollars

http://www.trustytime02.cc/index.php...e3026a9baa15b5

I was just going to post that. Lol.

it hasn’t even been listed in their new releases yet.

 

[Blackjack]

Still can't tell if that's a gap in the dial where the pinion is, even with the upclose images from trusty.

 

[XLR8R]

They will never ever set that price, I BET they will set it at at least 50-70 bucks more.
I think it will be set at around 488


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[KJ2020]

Still can't tell if that's a gap in the dial where the pinion is, even with the upclose images from trusty.

I think what we are seeing there is not a gap but a reflection from the underside of the hour hand surround onto the dial. The reason the reflection looks larger than the hand surround is due to the dial hole being slightly curved inward right at the perimeter of the cut. After originally posting about this, I looked at a bunch of my other black rep dials under extreme close up brightly lit conditions and find the effect to be quite similar on many of them. I was surprised I had never really noticed that before or paid much attention to it.

 

[KJ2020]

I like the ln on the jubilee. The never should have discontinued that. Rolex should have just updated it to the 126710ln.

Completely agree, that would have made so much sense. The SS GMT should never be unavailable with a black insert, it's historic. It should never be unavailable with an oyster bracelet either, Rolex made two major GMT blunders at Basel 2019 IMO.

 

[TheSociety]

Still can't tell if that's a gap in the dial where the pinion is, even with the upclose images from trusty.

Photos from trusty doesn’t look like it has the gaps. So confusing lol.
Also even more confusing trusty has a Noob CHS lister with identical description to the VRF!




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[Gioz]

trusty have alredy in stock?

 

[mari115]

498 dollars

http://www.trustytime02.cc/index.ph...=20650&zenid=24fe857b13a406667de3026a9baa15b5

I was spot on, so, if the contact of the guy up there in the thread can really get you this watch for 400$ SHIPPED, and of course he will earn from that sale, it confirms the fact that TDs artificially modify the price of the new reps using “cartel” techniques in order to earn more.

400 usd SHIPPED vs 498 WITHOUT SHIPPING.

It’s actually outrageous.

It’s more than 100$ unjustified net revenue for the TDs



Is there really nothing we can do in order to fight against this scummy practices?


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[Princewilliam]

I was spot on, so, if the contact of the guy up there in the thread can really get you this watch for 400$ SHIPPED, and of course he will earn from that sale, it confirms the fact that TDs artificially modify the price of the new reps using “cartel” techniques in order to earn more.

400 usd SHIPPED vs 498 WITHOUT SHIPPING.

It’s actually outrageous.

It’s more than 100$ unjustified net revenue for the TDs



Is there really nothing we can do in order to fight against this scummy practices?


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You could buy off a TD or non TD with no warranty or customs protection, brings the price down, TD price is the price you pay for piece of mind

TD’s are probably so sick of ppl on the forum rejecting every watch for ridiculous things, sending photos back to them covered in red lines

I’d want an extra $100 just to look at this shit

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[mari115]

You could buy off a TD or non TD with no warranty or customs protection, brings the price down, TD price is the price you pay for piece of mind

TD’s are probably so sick of ppl on the forum rejecting every watch for ridiculous things, sending photos back to them covered in red lines

I’d want an extra $100 just to look at this shit

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Lmao I totally agree with you about this point you are making, that must be annoying, but still, even if it’s rejected, it’s not like they throw away the rejected watch, they will sell it to the next guy in line.
Anyways, I understand what you mean, but think about this: for the guy to sell the vrf gmt for 400 usd SHIPPED, so around 350 usd without shipping (if we use the bullshit shipping price of the major TDs) it still means that the contact guy has to earn around 100$ in order for it to be worthwhile, so he will most likely buy it for less than 250 usd, and this bring us to the annoying fact that our TDs earn more than 50% on the reps they sell
(Less than 250 usd and 498 WITHOUT shipping so around 540 usd final price)

Idk man I’m kinda salty


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[neospike911]

You could buy off a TD or non TD with no warranty or customs protection, brings the price down, TD price is the price you pay for piece of mind

TD’s are probably so sick of ppl on the forum rejecting every watch for ridiculous things, sending photos back to them covered in red lines

I’d want an extra $100 just to look at this shit

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS.

Agree with every word.

I can't imagine how ridiculously tough is dealers day, because even myself im getting very annoyed by everytime reading bullshit like "Oh my God, here is 0,00003 nanometers gap this is new rep SELs, what a fail, we all gonna die"

YOU ARE BUYING REP, GOD DAMNIT.

"Funniest" thing that is always written by 2 month old no-namers with 1-10 posts on it, mainly.

Just F***CKIN annoying.

 

[mari115]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS.

Agree with every word.

I can't imagine how ridiculously tough is dealers day, because even myself im getting very annoyed by everytime reading bullshit like "Oh my God, here is 0,00003 nanometers gap this is new rep SELs, what a fail, we all gonna die"

YOU ARE BUYING REP, GOD DAMNIT.

"Funniest" thing that is always written by 2 month old no-namers with 1-10 posts on it, mainly.

Just F***CKIN annoying.

2 months old? Man, too much, 2 days old maximum, that write here only because they want some info about the best sub and then disappear after they take it ahahaha


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[Fervid]

These forums are dangerous for my wallet.

 

[Gioz]

where i can buy?

 

[KJ2020]

You could buy off a TD or non TD with no warranty or customs protection, brings the price down, TD price is the price you pay for piece of mind

TD’s are probably so sick of ppl on the forum rejecting every watch for ridiculous things, sending photos back to them covered in red lines

I’d want an extra $100 just to look at this shit

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Hilarious bro, so true.