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MP Factory 15510ST??
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From what I can gather from these 480p videos, looks pretty good. Correct thickness, good bezel/screw fitment, 50th anniversary balance wheel, and dial colors look more accurate with metallic sunburst finish rather than the plastic looking ZF/APSF dials. If it weren't for the caseback sticker and video format I'd say these look gen.
I went to the guy's instagram, here's some pictures of the green dial. Still same videos of the blue, green, and grey. No white or black.
The fit/finish and dial sunburst look much better than the $298 MPF 15500, however it still has the decorated Miyota instead of the Clone 4302 on the latest ZF and APSF. Honestly that's not a huge dealbreaker for me considering how it seems there's finally a rep with a metallic gen-like finish on the dial, something missing on all the ZFs.
I recall also seeing this image on a reddit post with the poster saying these were custom dials from a modder with the whole watch being $1000+, which sounds entirely fishy to me. The tapisserie on these look too small though, and that green is too green compared to gen. The MPF dial colors look much more accurate. Grey gen for reference.
The fit/finish and dial sunburst look much better than the $298 MPF 15500, however it still has the decorated Miyota instead of the Clone 4302 on the latest ZF and APSF. Honestly that's not a huge dealbreaker for me considering how it seems there's finally a rep with a metallic gen-like finish on the dial, something missing on all the ZFs.
I recall also seeing this image on a reddit post with the poster saying these were custom dials from a modder with the whole watch being $1000+, which sounds entirely fishy to me. The tapisserie on these look too small though, and that green is too green compared to gen. The MPF dial colors look much more accurate. Grey gen for reference.
Meh, is there a way to edit posts on computer? Hate to triple post...
Well, looks like MPF just reused their crummy case and bracelet from their 15500. Notice the bracelet seam around the logo. It should look like all the other seams but the MPF didn't bevel those last links. ZF's bracelet is a lot more accurate. Also the 15510 is supposed to have more aggressive bevelling on the case and it appears that the MPF 15510 is no different from my ZF 15500 in that regard. At least it has a good looking dial...
Well, looks like MPF just reused their crummy case and bracelet from their 15500. Notice the bracelet seam around the logo. It should look like all the other seams but the MPF didn't bevel those last links. ZF's bracelet is a lot more accurate. Also the 15510 is supposed to have more aggressive bevelling on the case and it appears that the MPF 15510 is no different from my ZF 15500 in that regard. At least it has a good looking dial...
This dial is spot on and hands down the best rep ap dial i have seen to date
A lot better than the custom one that we see lately
Im very curious about that release
If anyone has more info please share
A lot better than the custom one that we see lately
Im very curious about that release
If anyone has more info please share
All we need is for ZF to take their 15500 V3, bevel the case a bit more (and whatever other minute case/changes the 15510 brings), put in this dial and rotor and call it good. I have no doubt the ZF case will be better than these but I really hope they can match the dial as well.
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Audemars Piguet - Royal Oak 41mm 15500 SS/LE Green MPF A4302 Mod - AP-901 | theonewatches.io
Audemars Piguet - Royal Oak 41mm 15500 SS/LE Green MPF A4302 Mod - AP-901 - ROYAL OAK - MP Factory AP Ref.15500 Royal Oak 41mm Stainless Steel MOVEMENT: Platinum Plated Japanese Miyota 9015 24J Automatic with decorated bridges & rotor like Genuine AP
www.theonewatches.io
Audemars Piguet - Royal Oak 41mm 15500 SS/LE White MPF A4302 Mod - AP-898 |theonewatches.io
Audemars Piguet - Royal Oak 41mm 15500 SS/LE White MPF A4302 Mod - AP-898 - ROYAL OAK - MP Factory AP Ref.15500 Royal Oak 41mm Stainless Steel MOVEMENT: Platinum Plated Japanese Miyota 9015 24J Automatic with decorated bridges & rotor like Genuine AP
www.theonewatches.io
Audemars Piguet - Royal Oak 41mm 15500 SS/LE Grey MPF A4302 Mod - AP-897 | theonewatch.io
Audemars Piguet - Royal Oak 41mm 15500 SS/LE Grey MPF A4302 Mod - AP-897 - ROYAL OAK - MP Factory AP Ref.15500 Royal Oak 41mm Stainless Steel MOVEMENT: Platinum Plated Japanese Miyota 9015 24J Automatic with decorated bridges & rotor like Genuine AP C
www.theonewatches.io
298$
Yup. Case and bracelet not as well finished as ZF, no new 15510-specific case beveling, and no clone movement.
But damn I love that dial so much more than my ZF 15500's...wonder if it's worth it just for that or if I should wait for the ZF 15510 and hope their dial is this good.
But damn I love that dial so much more than my ZF 15500's...wonder if it's worth it just for that or if I should wait for the ZF 15510 and hope their dial is this good.
Well just ordered this in grey dial from Hont, he says he can get it. On further review it looks like MPF is using a 15400 case as there's a gap between the bezel and the adjacent case line, which is not present on the 15500 and 15510. The bezel screws seem slightly larger than gen but then I always thought ZF's bezel screws were a bit small, so neither are completely correct.
I'm going to try to swap in my ZF bracelet as long as the lug pins line up. Depending on that, the case thickness (I'd rather it be the thinner 9.8mm 15400 case vs the 10.6mm of my 15500 case), and how the case finishing is in general, I may attempt a case swap as well since I have the V2 with the same Miyota. The gen 15510 case and bracelet are shaped differently than both reps so no matter which case I keep it won't be completely accurate anyway.
Regardless, even with inaccuracies to gen, I still think it'll be an improvement in my eyes over the ZF 15500. The brownish plasticy dial with no sunburst is a letdown despite how nice the case and bracelet finishing is, and I think the 15510 is overall a design improvement on the 15500 and 15400 anyway. Swapping in this dial/Miyota into a ZF 15500 is probably the best we can get until ZF releases a 15510 with this dial, accurate case/bracelet, and clone A4302. Then of course they have had years to improve the 15400/15500 dials and ignored them at each new version, with only the 15400 white having any metallic sunburst.
As far as I know I'm the first here or on reddit to purchase this so I'll keep you all updated with QC and comparisons to my ZF 15500 grey dial when it eventually arrives.
I'm going to try to swap in my ZF bracelet as long as the lug pins line up. Depending on that, the case thickness (I'd rather it be the thinner 9.8mm 15400 case vs the 10.6mm of my 15500 case), and how the case finishing is in general, I may attempt a case swap as well since I have the V2 with the same Miyota. The gen 15510 case and bracelet are shaped differently than both reps so no matter which case I keep it won't be completely accurate anyway.
Regardless, even with inaccuracies to gen, I still think it'll be an improvement in my eyes over the ZF 15500. The brownish plasticy dial with no sunburst is a letdown despite how nice the case and bracelet finishing is, and I think the 15510 is overall a design improvement on the 15500 and 15400 anyway. Swapping in this dial/Miyota into a ZF 15500 is probably the best we can get until ZF releases a 15510 with this dial, accurate case/bracelet, and clone A4302. Then of course they have had years to improve the 15400/15500 dials and ignored them at each new version, with only the 15400 white having any metallic sunburst.
As far as I know I'm the first here or on reddit to purchase this so I'll keep you all updated with QC and comparisons to my ZF 15500 grey dial when it eventually arrives.
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Some more pictures of the Green Dial. For this price it is a pretty good looking watch. I really like the minty green color of the dial.
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I have zf 15500 v2 in blue, but sincerely I don't see in photos (maybe in life yes) so much difference in finishing on the case and bracelet... the dial is very very impressive on this "cheap" Ap...
The biggest issue to me is that it's using what looks to be a 15400 case, in that there's a gap between the bezel and the line above and below. Not a big deal to the untrained eye, but once you see it you can't unsee it etc. The 15500 and 15510 have no gap, which is the only discernable case difference between the 15400 and 15500, and the measured lug-to-lug for the 15400, gen or rep, is about 1mm larger than the newer two as a result. Also the clasp links on the MPF do not have the correct bezeling. Although on these hi-res pictures everything does look very good, especially the bezel screws, a lot better than the MPF 15500 on trustytime. Still haven't gotten my QC pics yet for my grey dial, but these pics look good enough I may just sell my ZF V2 as is instead of bothering to swap parts out and selling the leftovers at a loss.
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Yes I See now, taking my 15500 in hand and the 15510 in photo. There is a big difference (hole) in the bezel up, and the bezel down(that show the movement) in the 15500 is slimmer than the bezel up(I don't know if I explained correct) the 15510 has approximately the same thickness on the two bezels
Ah, so those are your pics of the watch in hand? That was fast. Do you have calipers to measure the thickness? 15400 should be 9.8mm and 15500/15510 10.5mm.
So Hont got the wrong watch for me at first. On a side note, the MPF 15500 has the same metallic dial finish, and looks way better than the ZF/APSF.
@legend thoughts compared to your gen 15500 grey?
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No, I have 15500 zf v2 in blue, the green in photo 15510 is not mineAh, quindi quelle sono le tue foto dell'orologio in mano? È stato veloce. Avete calibri per misurare lo spessore? 15400 dovrebbe essere 9,8 mm e 15500/15510 10,5 mm.
Quindi Hont ha sbagliato orologio per me all'inizio. Come nota a margine, l'MPF 15500 ha la stessa finitura metallica del quadrante e ha un aspetto decisamente migliore rispetto allo ZF/APSF.
@legend pensieri rispetto al tuo grigio gen 15500?
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