Movement ID? Uh isnt this a 2824 clone?

[ward1991]

Working on this watch for a friend. Cheapie hamilton. The stem was broken off. So I placed a new one on then it wouldn't go in. So I tore down keyless works. The clutch wheel is way too small for a 2824, 2836 stem to fit through it.

Am i being stupid? What movement is this?

 

[Raddave]

looks like a 2824 clone , try a stem for a 2824 instead if a 2824 -2

 

[KJ2020]

I've seen this before. I just replaced the tiny winding pinion with the larger 2824/36 one.

 

[ward1991]

looks like a 2824 clone , try a stem for a 2824 instead if a 2824 -2

Oh I never knew the 2824/2824-2 used a different stem!

I've seen this before. I just replaced the tiny winding pinion with the larger 2824/36 one.

I have plently of 28xx parts so that was gonna be my next move. Just had to ask because I've been inside many a 28xx and have never seen that before. Wild. Thank you!

Will report back to confirm.

 

[Hor-Fan]

The fine adjustment fork looks fake. If it is then it’s a Shanghai 2824, not an actual clone.

 

[Raddave]

if i remember correctly there are 2 gears that need to be replaced ofr the 2824-2 and 2836-2 stem to work

 

[ward1991]

if i remember correctly there are 2 gears that need to be replaced ofr the 2824-2 and 2836-2 stem to work

I believe you are correct, clutch wheel and winding pinion Inner diameters are both too small for standard 28xx stem, so both will need replaced.

I will swap them in tomorrow as I'm too tired tonight and report back.

Im glad I posted, I couldn't find anything about this in the great depths of the rwi catacombs.

Maybe it will help some fella down the line.

 

[ward1991]

The fine adjustment fork looks fake. If it is then it’s a Shanghai 2824, not an actual clone.

My thoughts were that it was a "Shanghai" as well. I will checkout that fork tomorrow.

Seems to be running quite well surprisingly. No idea how long the stem has been out of the watch might have been years and years

 

[Raddave]

i did that to my ploppy movement , it was a 22836-0

 

[Raddave]

if you hae the original stem , you could cut it and use a stem exttender too

 

[ward1991]

if you hae the original stem , you could cut it and use a stem exttender too

Unfortunately, the original stem has gone by-by I guess, wasn't provided with the watch.

 

[Raddave]

Unfortunately, the original stem has gone by-by I guess, wasn't provided with the watch.

bummer