Was in an AD this morning checking out some Hublot's and was fortunate to come across a real live ICE BANG ( my first time in the flesh ). I have the V1 lite and I Love it! But to be honest there is no way to replicate Tungsten without Tungsten. This watch was so dark but sparkled like no other. In a nut shell to save all of those members who are deciding on which rep to go with, I would say that if you were looking for a nice watch, go with the Ice Bang. If you are looking for a gen like rep, stay away from the Ice bang. There is no way to replicate that watch without its true parts. Came home and looked at my V1 lite and it just didnt compare. I felt the stainless evolution they had was alot closer to the gen than the Ice Bang.