I cannot decide if it is GEN or NOT...

[Horace_Derwent]

Often, on eBay .com (US) , some Royal Oak Offshore are poppin out...often without Box and Documents, and they reach BIG prices .

Take this for example

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Safari White 42mm 26170ST.OO.D091CR.01 Watch | eBay

OO.D091CR.01 Watch. Model Royal Oak Offshore Safari. (Pictured). Dial White Dial. Case Size 42.00mm. Band Black Rubber Strap. We were voted BEST of Long Island from 2015 - 2020! Collectors Coins & Jewelry of Lynbrook.

www.ebay.com

Can you guys establish if this is GEN or Rep ? I mean, no Box, No Documents, only 4 Photos....


Or this

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Extra-Thin 39mm Rose Gold 15202OR.OO.1240OR.01 Jumbo | eBay

<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Authentic Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Extra-Thin 39mm Rose Gold 15202OR.OO.1240OR.01 Jumbo.</p> <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">No original box. No original papers.</p> <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Band...

www.ebay.com

Remember, no Box and No Papers...sold for over 80 k $$$ !!!!

OR this

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Carbon Black Ceramic 26400AU.OO.A002CA.01 | eBay

Just serviced by Audemars in Clearwater Florida 10/2021. Complete polish and clean. Replaced 18K white gold hands and upgraded calibre 3126/3840. Replaced flange ring, complete servicing (see photo of work order).

www.ebay.com

For me, especially the Carbon ones...i cannot 100 % be sure they are GEN.
A few photos...and that it is.

 

[Storm.]

What exactly is your question?

 

[Horace_Derwent]

What exactly is your question?

My opinion is that i canot be 100 % Sure that these AP are GENs.

What do you think, looking at the auction ?

 

[j21]

The 26170 looks like yes but needs to be inspected to be sure
I know for fact that they are trading at 13-15k usd right now but 10-11k its too low

The other too looks like they are removed

 

[Horace_Derwent]

No,

they're not removed, i searched in the SOLD section....they were actually Sold.

I mean, for me APs are too highly priced to be sure on a n eBay auction that they're 100 % GEN.

This is the meaning of this Thread.

 

[Storm.]

I don't get it.

You're worried about high prices on rare watches?

What?

 

[bigkat725]

I think its pretty hard to trust anything on ebay or chrono24 at this point. The fakes are getting so good and the gens are becoming harder and harder to acquire. When I see anyone in public wearing anything more expensive than a stainless Rolex, I pretty much assume its a rep. In fact, I have seen some 6 figure vintage watches on chrono24 multiple times with obviously fake dials. Its incredible how the watch market has become nearly impossible to trust

 

[Storm.]

I think its pretty hard to trust anything on ebay or chrono24 at this point. The fakes are getting so good and the gens are becoming harder and harder to acquire. When I see anyone in public wearing anything more expensive than a stainless Rolex, I pretty much assume its a rep. In fact, I have seen some 6 figure vintage watches on chrono24 multiple times with obviously fake dials. Its incredible how the watch market has become nearly impossible to trust

99,9% of people who wear a beautiful Rolex, if it looks gen it is gen.

It's only a very small percentage of rep wearers who are like us that wear nice reps. Rest is 19mm thick subs.