Feel of a Pannie Crown and CG... (noob qn)

[seraphe]

Just wanna be sure before I hand my 005 rep to someone I do not wish to reveal that it is a fake to.

From the design or the cg for gen panerai, it seems to me that it should have a soft clicky feel whenever you release the lever before winding. This 'soft click' I am referring to the slow release of the crown when you pull up the lever while the crown springs slowly outwards, with the greatest pressure on the lever slowly lessen as you release. Similarly when you push the lever back, it should feel tighter as you push until it sortaf 'click' back the lever into the cg.

Is this how it should feel?

I'm asking coz that's now how the cg of my 005 rep feels. The lever is tight when homed, but the pressure seems released almost immediately as I pull it out of the cg and there is no need to pull the lever to release any springed crown. In fact, the crown doesn't feel like it has spring that pushes it out.

At first, I thought that my pre-cherry pannie perception of the design was wrong, that this was how it should feel. Over the weekends, I had the chance to feel the lever of other reps at a rep shop in Malaysia, and it felt exactly how I thought it to be before. (Though that was not a 005, but was a cheap 177)

So which is the right feel of the crown and cg? It is different for my 005 as with others (say a 177)?

Someone pls enlighten me...

 

[Perspex Tropic]

Maybe The wrong Forum?

As This is A Site On Replicas, Not Genuines!
Maybe There Are Some Members Here Who Do own A Gen PAm with Lever/Crown Guard.
Speak Up Chaps, Who Is Faking To Have A Fake? :?

I cant't Help You Besides This warning;

After Pulling The Lever on A Swiss Fake Fiddy... Don't Count To Six, Throw It Away And Cover Your Eyes!

 

[seraphe]

Maybe The wrong Forum?

As This is A Site On Replicas, Not Genuines!
Maybe There Are Some Members Here Who Do own A Gen PAm with Lever/Crown Guard.
Speak Up Chaps, Who Is Faking To Have A Fake? :?

I cant't Help You Besides This warning;

After Pulling The Lever on A Swiss Fake Fiddy... Don't Count To Six, Throw It Away And Cover Your Eyes!

I'm sure there are honorable members here who have both. And I'm sure some who don't may have come across the gen, be it from a friend or from AD.

Anyway, I just want to know how far I can 'fool' paneristis before revealing to them it's a fake.

 

[crumpdaddy]

Ferrariman has a gen 111H. Try contacting him.

 

[seraphe]

Thanks, enzo. That's a very good explanation!

Not only are you describing what the feel is like, you're basically breaking the whole explanation down to the very detail of the design and construction, even with a rep comparison!

That's what I call 'art of replications'. Designing a good design is hard, but replicating a good design is even harder, considering how much details you've to look into to get things right... and higher regards to those counterfeiters who can even fool the experts! Imaging counterfeiting Mona Lisa... whoever can do a good job in this must really have the same eyes as the originator, to see the same hence do the same.

Back to the CG for reps. Now I understand it's possible to see variations of CG for the same model... even from the same production line. But how about the shape and thickness of CG in the different gen models?

Since we are talking replicas, the varience can be extensive. Doesn't really depend on the model, it can flux from watch to watch.

What you are describing is a, "quality of finish". Which is always better on a GEN than a REP. A crown guard/crown is a very precise play of tolerances and so it takes some effort to make it all work, as well as feel right ... A correct lever compression feels like is presses more prior to seating. So when it finally locks down, it actually backs off a bit.

Reps are not finished off as nice generally, and that is due to the speed they are assembled. Often backing out the CG screws and resetting them can make your dodgy lever action much nicer.

You can find a REP lever that feels right, but chances are it won't be as nice as a GEN. This is one of those things that you get for your extra dosh. More polishing, fitting makes a smoother feel. The lever should depress the crown toward the case. But it shouldn't over-compress the gaskets in the system otherwise this will cause a leaky seal issue. Neither should it be so loose as to come open with gravity or motion.

You should be able to rotate the crown when closed, [however you don't want to do that, but should be able to.] Tighter and the rubber seal is probably being over compressed. When subjected to pressures as in ATMs, an overcompressed gasket will shrink further and then leak. Since the Panerai stem/crown/lever system uses two gasket seals, you would have one defeated at that point and the tube gasket can usually only hold back 3-5 ATM of pressure, by it's limitation of design.