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College over age 30?

Discussion in 'Off Topic Discussion' started by Aaron97, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. Aaron97

    Aaron97 Well-Known Member  

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    Just wondering how many others might be taking college classes in their post-youth days?

    Like myself, I'll be 38 this year, married, two kids, full-time career and trying to fit in time to knockout online college courses. I should be reading chapters or posting in class discussions right now, but here I am procrastinating as usual. Which really is the route cause for all of this, if I hadn't spent my whole adult life procrastinating, I could have multiple PhD's by now, rather than just starting a Bachelors.

    Why are you taking college classes at your age?

    For me, its first to make sure I keep my job. I'm extremely mechanically inclined, which is how I became an engineer without an engineering degree. But in todays world, that stupid little piece of paper seems to trump experience. So I need to finish a degree, in order to meet the norm for the position I currently hold. Second reason for going to school at my age is that I aspire to be more. I'd rather be the guy in charge of all engineers than to be the engineer. Not looking to be CEO or anything one day, just a Director position is fine with me. While Director is only two steps above my current position, its a long ways to go.


    Granted for me, all this career stuff is a backup plan. My wife owns a small business and her father owns about 4 more various businesses, and one day he should retire and hand it all over to my wife. If that happens, she will need my help and I will walk away from my current job. But, that's not set in stone and nothing is promised or guaranteed, so you always got to have a backup plan.
     
  2. redrising

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    You are so right about that. I'm in the beginning stages of my MBA program. I just need it to bump up my resume. Aside from this, it's useless and a waste of time and money. Ultimately, you have to follow the golden rule - those who has the gold, makes the rules.
     
  3. Maron

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    My wife is from the third world and moved to canada at 26 y/o. So she only now had the opportunity to educate herself. She's 32.

    Myself I'm 33. I'll have my bachelor's by 37, I just finished my first year. I had my own obstacles which kept me out of school until now. I'm so happy I'm finally doing it and I think I could learn forever if time and money permitted.

    Why am.i doing it? I want to have a career and support a family. You all are correct in that these days it's very important to have a degree. I'm also doing it to prove something to myself. But now that I'm doing it I realize that I'd do it regardless of those things, simply because I love it.

    I disagree with many that education is a waste of time. I think it's so important. In fact my wife and I are both in our 30s living on student loans, broke as fuxk, for the last two years and for four more. That's how much it means to us.

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  4. Aaron97

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    I don't think I'd do it if I had to go the loan route. Much respect to you and your wife for it.
    Luckily I have my G.I. Bill from my military service and on top of that my company pays up to $5k per year.

    I've still got 73 credits to go for a BS. Focused on courses that apply to the BS but also towards an AS. That way at least by the beginning of next year I should have the AS complete. An AS plus 21 years experience is enough to keep my job and open doors to other opportunity if something should happen.

    Currently taking Legislation and Meteorology. Mid terms next week. Joy.


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  5. Hazza

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    Education is the only true investment you make in yourself.
    Good luck everyone!
     
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    Well said

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  7. redrising

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    In business, who you know is more important than what you know. If you want to climb up the corporate ladder, it's all about politic.
     
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    Again it also depends on what you want to do with your life, which profession you choose. I know a local business owner who only has a high school diploma but became top 40 business men in canada under 40. But if you want to be a doctor obviously you need an education. In canada you probably won't get hired on the police without a degree these days as well, which is a good thing

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    I'm all for eduction! I find it as a great investment in yourself as my bud [MENTION=109306]Hazza[/MENTION] says. I will hopefully be forever learning, and getting more degrees. My goal is to half my office filled with more degrees then to know what to Do with. I just love learning new things. Keep up the work man to all the students!


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  10. sinsir

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    In today's world it's not always enough to have that degree. It's not only important what degree you have, but WHERE it's from. I see so many resumes with a degree from here or there for positions that do not require a degree. I have people working for me with degrees in positions that don't require a degree. It's sad really. That degree didn't help them one bit so far in their career because it wasn't the right degree from the right school or specialized enough.

    I am one that likes education and believes in it, but the way the current American higher education system is rigged you are saddled with outrageous debt (or the parents) for a piece of paper that really has the equivalent in the job market to open the same doors a HS diploma did in days past. College used to be about education, now it's money like everything else. All that said, enjoy the time you have learning, the knowledge will help you in life even though the paper may or may not.

    I wish I could be a student forever... Why did I want to grow up again?

    I reread that, please don't let me discourage you students, education is important and keep on striving to make your life better in any way possible!
     
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    'sinsir' is right, you want to try and line it all up. If you plan to go into aviation, then you'd want an aviation school or at least a school with a well known aviation department. Then you want a degree relevant to your career path, but you have also keep in mind that your path will change over time and so will your school requirements. For me example, if I had my engineering degree already, that would help me get into an engineering job, however as time passes and I aspire to move up the ladder, I'll need to a management degree, in which if you already had a BA/BS, the might as well tackle an MBA.

    What surprises me is, when I get emails about high profile figure heads changing positions within my company, I am starting to see more and more people with University of Phoenix as their second school. Even my current boss, he has a BS in Aviation Management and an MBA from Uni. of Phoenix. Granted, he thinks his UoP is weak, so he is also working on another Masters in Technical Management from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.
     
  12. DocHolliday

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    I've seen a few acquaintances get that degree in their 30's in communications, or general studies. I ask why? They have no intent of going to grad school, or law school. They just want it. I commend them for getting the degree. However, it doesn't affect my life whether they have it or not. It's really not affecting their pay at their current job because they already have 12 years experience. It you want to put yourself in student debt now I really feel you need a degree where you can lock up great job security like becoming a nurse.
     
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    That's what my wife are doing, psych nursing. Well owe up to $70,000 in a few years but in Manitoba if you take a full time job here after studies they'll reimbursed you up to 60% of your loans over a few years. Plus we will have all the overtime we could want. And plenty of job opportunities and movement. I'll be getting a masters for sure.

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    Thats great man. I know two people that completely switched their careers and went back to school with degrees to become a nurse. they both got a big signing bonus once they got their RN license.
     
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    It's always worth it to edumicate yourself

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    I wish I could do that sometimes, change careers completely. If I could turn back time, I'd go to school to be a psychiatrist, then sit back and rake in the cash from the insurance companies that pay you to you listen to crazy people talk. Then after a few years, I could write a book on what all the crazy people said and make even more money. Then I'd be famous and could charge a ridiculous amount for crazy rich people to tell me their stories.... then probably write a book about them too.

    It was all the rage to be an nurse when I graduated high school. Every single person I hangout with back then went into the medical business and most became RN's. Hopefully RN's get paid better where you're at, but in Louisiana its peanuts.
     
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    That's awesome for you and your wife!

    My lady and I will have when she's done, amounts that are ridiculous. (Look up average med school debt, times that by Two..) lol but luckily, every degree I want now will be paid for by my work, unless I leave. Which I plan on.. But is this all worth it? Couldn't tell you. I'll let you know in twenty years.. Lol


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  18. S.Corbeil

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    Not in my 30's yet (I'll be turning 27 this week) but I have completed my Bachelors degree and I am about to begin my Masters degree this upcoming September. Will be almost 30 by the time it'll be said and done.

    I believe in higher education and pursuing specialization, but where I live, education is considering fairly affordable (compared to the rest of Canada and the US), with the result being that plenty amongst my generation go to school for the sake of it. They rack up Masters and Doctorate degrees in completely worthless fields just because. I'm afraid this could lead to over-diplomation and lead to diminished worth of the degrees you obtain.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Tell them to become traveling nurses. They make great money and get living, housing, and expense reimbursement for it. I know several people that do it now or did it and love it! They make really good money and get to see the country.
     
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    [MENTION=36488]sinsir[/MENTION] - I'll have to tell them about that. Not sure if they will like the idea, they think I'm crazy for having lived in 8 different states and 4 different countries. Most my old buddies seemed to be stuck where they are, and they think a vacation means driving to Florida for a weekend. Some people go there whole lives and never get more than a 100 miles from home, to me, that's insane.

    Got mid terms this week. So much fun. :bang:
     
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    [MENTION=129631]Aaron97[/MENTION] I couldn't imagine that. I lived all over the country and visited 3/4 of the states. I need to do more overseas traveling next! Really tell them the traveling nurse gig is nice. Most of the time the hospitals and recruiters will take care of everything. They only have to show up. Typically the contracts are longish in term too, multiple months. It's not like they are here for a week and there for a week. I know when I lived in NYC I dated a traveling nurse and most of the other traveling nurses lived in the same building so she had instant friends for people to hang out with instead of flying solo and forced to meet new people on her own, not that that's difficult in NYC!

    Good luck with mid terms!
     
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    It's interesting how this topic came up as it somewhat hits home in my current situation. I am in my mid-30s, got my law degree while working full-time (due to which my university days lasted longer than anticipated/planned), worked a lot of jobs but steered clear mostly of a "traditional" legal career. However, that degree did provide job opportunities in my home country; less than what initially "advertised" (go to law school, they said, you can have any job afterwards, they said...:hypnotized:).

    Having moved to the US and not getting any interviews, I find myself in the situation where I HAVE to go back to school here in the US to make myself more "graspable" for hiring managers and less of a risk due to my education/background. I already started doing some online classes to ease into it, but it is definitely not easy, being married, having two kids, being the stay-at-home parent, as the fulltime-studying-mindset is something I have become almost alien to. However, I know it's a means to an end, and I finally get to pursue something I really, really want to do (quite frankly speaking, after graduating high school I was not ready to be let loose on the world...:blush:).
     
  23. Nivka

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    I went back to study 4-year post-graduate medicine at 33. I'm 36 now and finish at the end of next year. I'd always wanted to do it, but kept putting it off until a mate died suddenly in 2012 (4 year anniversary today, actually), and I just woke up one morning and though "stuff it, why wait?" and enrolled in the entrance exam and have been studying my arse off ever since.

    I'm in a similar boat to others in this thread in that life is really busy: full time study, part time work, 18-month old and another one due in 3 weeks. Financially it's really tough. I'd worked for a few years as a psychologist and was used to that disposable income. Now we're on government benefits and I work most Saturdays and can't afford a lot of the luxuries we were used to. ( although it's amazing how much crap you spend money on when it's sitting in the bank!)

    It's easier being in Australia compared to the US from what I can gather. It'll cost me about US$30k for the degree, so nothing like the $70k mentioned.

    The first couple of years were great and I was super enthusiastic, but lately I'm getting really over it and just can't wait for it to finish. I've got finals in 123 days and am counting down.

    I hope to train in psychiatry of neurology and subspecialise in dementia and brain injury eventually, which will hopefully make it all worthwhile, at least financially. Psychologists are underpaid here and I can't get Medicare rebates (ie government contributions) for private assessments, so it's not really tenable long term.

    I love study and recommend it. It's essential for my line of work, but I know people who've enrolled as mature students (even into their 50s and 60s) to study an interest for interests sake rather than career progression (eg medieval history, classical painting etc)
     
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    VIAs? Good luck mate.
     
  25. Nivka

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    VIA? I don't know that acronym sorry
     
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    I'm almost 50 and am considering going back and taking courses. Not sure if a total career change is in order, but I should at least pick up some certifications if I plan on staying competitive for the next 15 to 20 years.
     
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    You must be one of our friends from across the river then.. Or Geelong?
     
  28. Nivka

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    Melbourne Uni. St V's clinical school. Sounds like you're in the know?
     
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    Doing year 4 undergrad at Monash Bendigo. Do you find that the doctors notice your reps?
     
  30. Nivka

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    Ah cool. No, I haven't had any watches noticed yet. I've seen a couple of nice pieces on consultants, but they don't really engage when I complement it.

    Are you on Paging Dr as well? There's a watch thread there too...

    So what does VIA stand for?!