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please advice which model panerai watch can make 1:1 version

siuamchi

Horology Curious
22/9/09
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This is my first post in RWI and being a gen Panerai owner plus a few other reps, here are what I want.

My criteria is based on one thing: The watches must be Unitas 6497 and ETA 7753 based since the movements are easy to rep.

My wish list in no particular order:
1. 127 Fiddy
2. 5218/201A
3. BBQ 360
4. 187 1000m Submersible Chrono
5. 249 Radiomir 1936 California
6. 232 Radiomir 1938
7. 194 Submersible 2500m

Thanks.
 

wat44

Mythical Poster
20/6/09
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PAM076

http://www.paneraisource.com/watch_details/Special_110.html

pam76_01.jpg
 

ikiestik

Renowned Member
8/4/09
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anything with the new calibre p.9000 so easy to do as someone said earlier just cover the bridges with brushed steel plate easy peasy.

There is no point in going back and repping ones that there has been tons of versions all with different flaws whats the point in moving backwards?

P
 

polaris

Active Member
27/11/08
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My vote goes to models in the current catalogue, specifically those with closed case backs and models not done by others.

I'd buy the following if they were good:
005
late serial 024/025

If the p.9000 movement can't be replicated, don't bother.

Important considerations is lume. Please use Superluminova like the recent 288/177. Cost below $400, $200-$300 would be a sweet spot.
 

mene

Horology Curious
1/10/09
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I don't usually post here on RWI but this is a great post from a good dealer :)
My vote goes to 000/005 or a 001B or C
 

JBON

You're Saying I Can Sell?
19/9/08
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Base models with closed casebacks such as the 000 or 005 for me as well.
 

QinetiQ

Banned member, the goat does not approve
Banned
6/8/09
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I'm two hands up for the 005. It's about time that watch gets repped
 

SilverEdge

Known Member
29/10/10
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Hi Mark-
I'll take a 312 the second you get them. I agree with MM and the others who posted that the newer models are more important and will provide a base for additional pieces going forward.
 

slimslim

I'm Pretty Popular
18/9/10
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yea i agree 100% on the p.9000 idea. it's smart because there are so many models you can make with it. if you get that case and movement down, you have a great versatility going forward. i would love a few models in that case set a 312 and that new black one are very nice.
 

pabler

Active Member
DO NOT TRADE WITH ME
26/2/09
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if you could pull off one of the new 44mm 1950 style cases and also the p.9000
movement, you could rep a TON of watches with it. and you could even possibly
then brown pvd it and use that as a rep of the new composite cases.

here's my thought:

the old pams, like the 005 we'll say are the easiest. closed caseback, simple ss case,
easy dial, no rollerball, etc. but the interest in these older models is limited in my
thoughts.

we're not really talking about rep forum enthusiasts here, we're talking about total
popularity and a rather large business move to make. forum geeks are but a small
percentage of what makes up the customer base of these factories.

the smartest move, in my opinion, is to focus on the new watches. yes, they
present their own challenges, but not impossible to overcome. you think you can
make a 1:1 Panerai? then test it on the new ones. the ones that are automatic,
with a date window, no cyclops, powered by the p.9000 movement and in 44mm
1950s cases (mini fiddy cases).

there are a ton of new models in those cases and making them all would just entail
different dials or small adjustments here or there to make a new model. if we're talking
about setting up new tooling, do it for more than just an old 005 or whatever, do
it for an entire new range of current, popular, hot on the market pams. 312, 351, 328,
and on and on and on. and make a brown case and do 368 etc. the only
hurdle you have after the case and such is the movement of course.

these are simple watches. so the very popular, and very available a7750 seems to
be the logical choice. could even go with the a7753. these can be made to look like
a p.9000 movement. not 1:1 of course, but enough so to satisfy the masses. the
rep factories are kind of lucky. why?

well the p.9000 has no pearlage to match, no cotes de Geneve to make or match, there
is no fancy finishing work on the gen p.9000 movement. they'd have to make a
cover plate to sit directly under the rotor and have it cover all but the balance, like
the p.9000 does. this is just brushed ss. same as the rotor, just a one piece brushed
ss rotor. the anglage is polished, that's the beveling on the edges. but other than
that it's simple. they do not need to engrave the rotor, or the cover plate. printing
on them will be acceptable if done in correct color, font, size, etc. this can be done.
and it can be done very cheaply.

and if it is done, the market is huge. 305, 312, 328, 351, 322, 359, 386, seven
models with the p.9000 who's cases can be made with the same tooling setup.


in any event, I'm happy to see many dealers asking about this and at least one
factory, the noobfactory, stepping it up for us with honest efforts, superlume from
the factory (which is HUGE), awesome cases and cg's, individual serial numbers, etc.

so I'd just like to say thank you. from a big panerai fan here's a thanks to the factories
for taking this thing in the direction it's going, it's gonna be a great ride!

+1 for your explanation.
 

PecMan

Put Some Respect On My Name
4/5/09
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Pam 332!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 332. 332. 332!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can u ??? Lol

Pam 332!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 332. 332. 332!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can u ??? Lol
 

QinetiQ

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People you need to face the facts. IN HOUSE MOVEMENTS WILL NOT BE REPPED PROPERLY!!! EVER!!! It's just too time and cost consuming and what do you think the prices will be like. I'm sure they'll be over $500!!! Just concentrate on all the closed caseback models!