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    Watches I understand, but luxury pens? What's up with those?

    I'll admit that I appreciate my CROSS pens as much as the next guy. I've got a great one that is rubber coated and has two colors in it. If I was stranded on a dessert island with 6000 checks to sign, then this is the pen I'd want with me (provided I had MICR ink in the barrel). But can pens really be worth hundreds of dollars? What is it about some pens that cause them to carry that kind of price? It has to be more than just gold on the barrel or something. Nearly every 'luxury' pen I've held has been too heavy and not practical. I'm just hoping someone can explain it to me so I can understand it. I didn't understand luxury watches for a long time either, but then someone told me about how they make Pateks and I was hooked from there on. Is there something similar about pens?
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    Most I've paid is $300 for a MB fountain pen, I'm not a pen enthusiast so I'm speaking for myself when I say I wouldn't pay more than $300 for one. I guess some people are as obsessed with pens [which can have beautiful designs and made of precious materials] as we are with watches, some people are happy with a $100 Seiko or their cell phone and some [like us] tend to like the good stuff.
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      #3
      I have to write quite a bit by hand at work and have grown to appreciate a well-made pen. I can understand someone wanting a quality writing utensil as much as wanting a quality timepiece. It makes me feel good to handle one of my Lamys (yes, I have more than one color) as much as I enjoy wearing a nice watch. When I share one of my nice pens with someone, it is similar to sharing an interest in one of my watches. Granted, I have a difficult time paying more than US $150 for a pen, but I can understand someone who values a pen as a status symbol as well as a tool. That's not me, but I can understand the mania. And that's what it is when you get down to it, isn't it?

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        #4
        Mate I can't go past my pack of 5 plastic pens from Office Works for $1.80.
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          #5
          Pens are an interesting racket. They can command up to thousands which is fascinating. Some don't even write that well. Maybe they're made out of Unobtanium or something.
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            Maybe they're made out of Unobtanium or something.
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              #7
              Originally posted by ocdetails, post: 480252
              What is it about some pens that cause them to carry that kind of price?

              Hold on there Bud... You know, general concept of a pen is a tool for writing only which is true to an extent but what gets written defines the characteristic and value of the pen as an instrument. Being a pen collector’s son I have learned a lot from my Dad who was also happen to be a calligraphic artist. My Dad used pens like Schaeffer, Parker, Visconti, Van Cleef, Omas, La Dona, West-Minister, Mont B. etc. From his collection I like Schaeffer and Visconti which gives character to even novice writer and brings individuality to writing pattern. Some of the pens from my Dad’s collection are non-gravitational; meaning the mechanism of how the ink is forced is entirely opposite to traditional pens. Non-gravitational fountain ink pens are more difficult to maintain, more fragile than ballpoint pens, they can’t be used with various oil and particle-based inks, in comparison with dip pens, reeds, or quill pens, but they are still considered by many famous and respected writers, artists and stylophiles to be the best instruments for writing or drawing. I can go on and on… on this subject but I’ve gotta jet back to work now ;-) Hope you got the idea…
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                #8
                yah, and those luxury cars too, whattup with dem??? and those designer labels for clothes, Armani and sht. I go with my ****** Chevy Aveo and my K-mart jeans. Looks all the same.

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                  #9
                  Pens haven't done an exceptional job in marketing themselves though. I've seen some pretty phat looking Parker pens in my day that cost a whopping $7 bucks that look every bit as fancy as I would expect a $700 pen to look. Nobody I've ever met gets 'pen envy' at expensive pens. I've had more pen envy at slick lightweight gel pens than I have at heavy gold pens.

                  Everybody knows that a Rolex is a Rolex, but other than Mont Blanc, what is another luxury pen manufacturer that people would recognize? I'm really more of a Parker and Cross kind of guy, but if there is something out there that is comfy and nice looking, then I don't mind expanding. I'm the type that rarely loses anything, so I would probably get my money's worth out of a $200 pen.

                  Originally posted by I am Sam, post: 480422
                  Hold on there Bud... You know, general concept of a pen is a tool for writing only which is true to an extent but what gets written defines the characteristic and value of the pen as an instrument. Being a pen collector’s son I have learned a lot from my Dad who was also happen to be a calligraphic artist. My Dad used pens like Schaeffer, Parker, Visconti, Van Cleef, Omas, La Dona, West-Minister, Mont B. etc. From his collection I like Schaeffer and Visconti which gives character to even novice writer and brings individuality to writing pattern. Some of the pens from my Dad’s collection are non-gravitational; meaning the mechanism of how the ink is forced is entirely opposite to traditional pens. Non-gravitational fountain ink pens are more difficult to maintain, more fragile than ballpoint pens, they can’t be used with various oil and particle-based inks, in comparison with dip pens, reeds, or quill pens, but they are still considered by many famous and respected writers, artists and stylophiles to be the best instruments for writing or drawing. I can go on and on… on this subject but I’ve gotta jet back to work now ;-) Hope you got the idea…
                  I can see it for fountain pens, but who uses those other than calligraphy artists? That isn't a slam either. I used to do calligraphy myself and I absolutely appreciate a fine fountain pen, but they really aren't the kind of thing people keep in their pocket to sign checks with.

                  And as far as the marketing comment goes, I probably meant to say they don't have the brand recognition that watches and cars have. Nobody needs to ask "what's a Mercedes" or "what's a Rolex" or even "what's an Armani". They have done well to market their brands. It is no different in any industry. I think they all have their Luxury lines that get marketed to death. I am a detailer and it even exists in the wax market. Did you know there are waxes out there that run $6000 per jar? That's not a typo either. Six grand for a jar of wax. Absolutely not worth it, but that doesn't keep people from buying it.
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                    #10
                    OCDetails, My friend I admire your simple approach. Have you ever wonder why a professional machinist prefers movement to be caged in soft iron like faraday? why protecting Nivarox hairspring is so important to some? Does the brand really matter? May be to some… but for those who look for characteristic and application either go for Mailgauss, Railmaster, Ingenieur or Amagnetic etc.?
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                      #11
                      I use a fountain regularly and don't know crap about calligraphy. But the best writing pen I have is a $6 Parker.

                      Funny what people call calligraphy today is what everyone used to call writing lol.
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                        #12
                        I use a fountain daily....one of the first I made.
                        Runs like a champion, and I actually write better with it, because I take my time.
                        I also have a cross mech ballpoint that I use as a scribbler, with a matching mech pencil.

                        I find it very difficult these days, to write with a disposable Bic or the like (without sounding like a pen snob)

                        So...pen envy? nah...I think the only people who suffer pen envy are people who have Montblanc pens, and then get shitty, because you're writing with a rhodium and coolabah burl pen that performs better at a fraction of the cost.
                        They've just paid a bucketload for a pen that is basically some gold and bakelite.

                        So.....I love writing, and I love how tactile it is...find the right pen with the right balance for you, and you never want to separate from it...be it a $6 parker or $1000 Graf von faber de castel......not matter...just as long as you enjoy using it.

                        Personally, I prefer making them
                        Actually, I make sawdust....the pen just falls out of the process

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                          #13
                          I have a few fountain pens...Visconti, Sailor, Stipula...and they certainly aren't necessary in terms of "writing some stuff down."

                          They are a great reminder that life is short, and to enjoy what you enjoy. Since I do a lot of creative writing, it makes that event a little more special.

                          Not dissimilar to a watch...it's a metal case (apparently not that special that it can't be easily duplicated) and a movement, dial, hands, strap. NONE of this hobby is necessary in terms of finding out what time it is. BUT...it is important for other, more subtle reasons. AND, these are the same reasons, for the most part, that we are passionate about. One needn't drink a Margaux to get drunk, but if you haven't had that wine, no amount of getting drunk on the cheap can explain it.

                          Joe the "Vive" is not what the French meant by the term.....

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                            #14
                            I had a montblanc ballpoint pen that i bought in 1992. I paid 100 for it in staples, i thought it was super expensive.
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                              #15
                              Never owned a nice pen, but I would like to try one. Maybe one day soon

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