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After quite a lot of work by forum staff, plus input from various 'sources', we've finally managed to unravel this mess.
Patricdeen did indeed sell the watch to member Rlx_Ant (who is no longer with us for various reasons, none of them really linked to this mess here) exactly as he claims, and Rlx_Ant paid by Paypal, as stated by him in one of his posts.
Patricdeen claims that his RWI account was hacked on September 11th, sometime in the afternoon. During that period, the 'hacker' changed the password for the account and also 'sold' the watch to Rmpd81 , giving him his Paypal address - before he was even asked ([email protected]). Rmpd81 kindly provided us with screen shots of his PM conversation with the 'hacker', and although the 'hacker' gave him is Paypal address, Rmpd81 ended up paying by Revolut, but the 'hacker' had given him his email address - which is important.
Patricdeen then claims he didn't log in for another 4 days because of personal reasons - bereavement - and when he did try to log back in he found his password no longer worked, meaning he couldn't gain access to his account.
He opened a Helpdesk ticket, and immediately started making claims of a hacker having access to his account, taking payment off a member for the watch he'd already sold to someone else. He was also very quick to point out that as his account had been hacked he was not responsible for any extra payments that had been taken for that watch.
He even repeated in it the sales thread:
At no point did he ask to be given access to his account again, asking for an Admin password reset for example.
He also made no attempt to reset his password himself - it would have worked if only he'd thought of trying, as the 'hacker' somehow forgot to change the email account associated with Patricdeen 's RWI account.
So we have a hacker who changes a password but leaves the email address associated with the account unchanged, and despite the '53' messages Patricdeen received regarding the watch, the 'hacker' decided to take payment from only one person (as it seems pretty clear now nobody else sent payment apart from the 2 people we know about).
This is obviously a kindly hacker - he only steals what he needs. I imagine him out in a fancy restaurant with his wife, celebrating her birthday, the bill arrives - holy crap that bottle of champagne was expensive. No way can he afford that bill - never mind, he just hacks into someone's' forum account and steals what he needs - no more.
Or maybe his wife is 8 1/2 months pregnant - the big day is coming soon, but the gearbox on his car needs replacing and he needs that car to take his wife to the hospital. No problem, he goes to a random forum, hacks an account and steals what he needs - no more, he's not the greedy type.
He's one of the good guys, a non-greedy hacker and scammer who only ever takes what he needs and never anything more - I like this guy and I've never even met him.
Fast forward to September 14th and we have a new member, Mathi90 , who uses the email address [email protected] to sign up - the same email address as used by the 'hacker'.
Mathi90 claims to be French and he says he's a student, but he writes Bonjour as Bon Jour - even French 5 year olds have a better grasp of French than Mathi90.
@Math90 's IP puts him in Germany, a long way from the French border.
So it appears that this new member Mathi90 is our hacker - he's using the same email address as the hacker gave out in PM when he was in Patricdeen 's account, and he's obviously lying about being a student living in France - he doesn't even speak French. So he's probably lying about other things too - right ?
On the face of it, that's what it seems - until somebody gives you some information that makes you look closer at all this, and understand that it's all lies, a story concocted by a mental midget who thought he'd come up with the perfect scam.
There have been very thorough checks made on Patricdeen 's account, and there is zero evidence of a hacker gaining access - there is no evidence of a password change, there is no evidence of an email address change.
There are changes in IP address for a period of about 2 hours in the afternoon of September 11, where the Patricdeen account switches from an IPV6 to a VPN - a Proton VPN.
Guess who uses a proton VPN ? - Patricdeen .
Curiously, our 'hacker' does not use a VPN, nor TOR - he's on a standard internet connection. Very curious for a 'hacker'.
In case you hadn't yet worked it out, Patricdeen and Mathi90 are the same person. He set this up as a scam, thinking it was perfect, that he couldn't get caught. How wrong he was.
This reminds me of the scam a few weeks ago, where some idiot scammer thought he was dealing with a billionaire arms dealer, crapped his pants and cancelled the scam.
The similarities are that both him and our friend Patricdeen here have very generous opinions regarding their level of intelligence - unfortunately the stupid are always the last to know just how stupid they are.
I have it on good authority that Patricdeen 's identity has been compromised - his name is no longer the closely guarded secret he thinks it is. Nor is his home address, telephone number, email addresses, nor the names of his failed businesses.
We did, and we discovered you're an asshole, asshole.
Patricdeen did indeed sell the watch to member Rlx_Ant (who is no longer with us for various reasons, none of them really linked to this mess here) exactly as he claims, and Rlx_Ant paid by Paypal, as stated by him in one of his posts.
Patricdeen claims that his RWI account was hacked on September 11th, sometime in the afternoon. During that period, the 'hacker' changed the password for the account and also 'sold' the watch to Rmpd81 , giving him his Paypal address - before he was even asked ([email protected]). Rmpd81 kindly provided us with screen shots of his PM conversation with the 'hacker', and although the 'hacker' gave him is Paypal address, Rmpd81 ended up paying by Revolut, but the 'hacker' had given him his email address - which is important.
Patricdeen then claims he didn't log in for another 4 days because of personal reasons - bereavement - and when he did try to log back in he found his password no longer worked, meaning he couldn't gain access to his account.
He opened a Helpdesk ticket, and immediately started making claims of a hacker having access to his account, taking payment off a member for the watch he'd already sold to someone else. He was also very quick to point out that as his account had been hacked he was not responsible for any extra payments that had been taken for that watch.
He even repeated in it the sales thread:
Incidentally, the matter has been resolved for me here. A) Watch sold and buyer happy B) I can only pay back what I received (evidence possible) C) who knows if the transfer receipt is real as well as the accusations, (we use Paypal here and no bank transfer) maybe it's also some scam D) I'm sorry but I don't care, I have enough around my ears in real life I wish the rest here a lot of fun hunting the green male until she sweeps away Corona. Cheers
At no point did he ask to be given access to his account again, asking for an Admin password reset for example.
He also made no attempt to reset his password himself - it would have worked if only he'd thought of trying, as the 'hacker' somehow forgot to change the email account associated with Patricdeen 's RWI account.
So we have a hacker who changes a password but leaves the email address associated with the account unchanged, and despite the '53' messages Patricdeen received regarding the watch, the 'hacker' decided to take payment from only one person (as it seems pretty clear now nobody else sent payment apart from the 2 people we know about).
This is obviously a kindly hacker - he only steals what he needs. I imagine him out in a fancy restaurant with his wife, celebrating her birthday, the bill arrives - holy crap that bottle of champagne was expensive. No way can he afford that bill - never mind, he just hacks into someone's' forum account and steals what he needs - no more.
Or maybe his wife is 8 1/2 months pregnant - the big day is coming soon, but the gearbox on his car needs replacing and he needs that car to take his wife to the hospital. No problem, he goes to a random forum, hacks an account and steals what he needs - no more, he's not the greedy type.
He's one of the good guys, a non-greedy hacker and scammer who only ever takes what he needs and never anything more - I like this guy and I've never even met him.
Fast forward to September 14th and we have a new member, Mathi90 , who uses the email address [email protected] to sign up - the same email address as used by the 'hacker'.
Mathi90 claims to be French and he says he's a student, but he writes Bonjour as Bon Jour - even French 5 year olds have a better grasp of French than Mathi90.
@Math90 's IP puts him in Germany, a long way from the French border.
So it appears that this new member Mathi90 is our hacker - he's using the same email address as the hacker gave out in PM when he was in Patricdeen 's account, and he's obviously lying about being a student living in France - he doesn't even speak French. So he's probably lying about other things too - right ?
On the face of it, that's what it seems - until somebody gives you some information that makes you look closer at all this, and understand that it's all lies, a story concocted by a mental midget who thought he'd come up with the perfect scam.
There have been very thorough checks made on Patricdeen 's account, and there is zero evidence of a hacker gaining access - there is no evidence of a password change, there is no evidence of an email address change.
There are changes in IP address for a period of about 2 hours in the afternoon of September 11, where the Patricdeen account switches from an IPV6 to a VPN - a Proton VPN.
Guess who uses a proton VPN ? - Patricdeen .
Curiously, our 'hacker' does not use a VPN, nor TOR - he's on a standard internet connection. Very curious for a 'hacker'.
In case you hadn't yet worked it out, Patricdeen and Mathi90 are the same person. He set this up as a scam, thinking it was perfect, that he couldn't get caught. How wrong he was.
This reminds me of the scam a few weeks ago, where some idiot scammer thought he was dealing with a billionaire arms dealer, crapped his pants and cancelled the scam.
The similarities are that both him and our friend Patricdeen here have very generous opinions regarding their level of intelligence - unfortunately the stupid are always the last to know just how stupid they are.
I have it on good authority that Patricdeen 's identity has been compromised - his name is no longer the closely guarded secret he thinks it is. Nor is his home address, telephone number, email addresses, nor the names of his failed businesses.
I agree. Let the mods do the Job!
We did, and we discovered you're an asshole, asshole.