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taggiascoz

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Hello I need to know if anyone can help what movement I’ve got here, I need to change a few bits, now the fix it’s temporary in fact the balance wheel isn’t its, plus there’s a paper spacer under the fork that hold the wheel, I also had to grind the rotor after the spacer had raised the balance wheel and now it’s too light to spin anyway I wanted to buy a spare one and take the bits I need, a friend from the forum suggested it’s a 2813
 

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Yes it's a 2813 variation. There's so many different ones out there it's difficult to say for sure exactly which manufacturer it is, especially if youve swapped some parts already. a new movement can be bought from websites like Otto Frei for under $50. It's not even worth the aggravation of trying to fix them. just drop a new one in and you're good for several years.
 

taggiascoz

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Yes it's a 2813 variation. There's so many different ones out there it's difficult to say for sure exactly which manufacturer it is, especially if youve swapped some parts already. a new movement can be bought from websites like Otto Frei for under $50. It's not even worth the aggravation of trying to fix them. just drop a new one in and you're good for several years.

Sounds good to me, but the problem is, which one can I drop in it? Any ideas?
thank you Rx4Time
 

taggiascoz

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http://www.ofrei.com/page1119.html



You'll need to match up the existing movement and dial configuration to the ones on the link above. As I said there's dozens of varieties and the link I posted is one of the best and most comprehensive sources.

So I just check the dial for day and date and then I measure thickness and diameter with calliper and any with those specs will work?
there are too many
 

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So I just check the dial for day and date and then I measure thickness and diameter with calliper and any with those specs will work?
there are too many

If I'm not mistaken a dg 2803 would work if you transfer the day and date wheels over. 2fake4u any experience with this? Would you be able to confirm this?
 
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taggiascoz

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If I'm not mistaken a dg 2803 would work if you transfer the day and date wheels over. 2fake4u any experience with this? Would you be able to confirm this?

I’ve had a look at dg2803 but it looks to me it has the day date wheels already
 

taggiascoz

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A few extra pics of the movement, ive managed to get the days wheel off but not the date


 

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If I'm not mistaken a dg 2803 would work if you transfer the day and date wheels over. 2fake4u any experience with this? Would you be able to confirm this?

no idea.

there should be some markings on the movement itself.
 

taggiascoz

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no idea.

there should be some markings on the movement itself.

I just need to know if there’s anything I could put in there, I have added pics with thickness and diameter both for the movement and the case
 

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2813s dont typically have a day feature , plus the jewel keeper looks Miyota to me

can we get a pic of it with the rotor removed ?

and was it hand windable ?
 

taggiascoz

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2813s dont typically have a day feature , plus the jewel keeper looks Miyota to me

can we get a pic of it with the rotor removed ?

and was it hand windable ?

I’ll take a pic later with rotor removed, yes hand windable but not hacking
 

taggiascoz

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Anything?? I wanna fix the watch, do I need to take the whole movement apart? Could that help?