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A dealers inside view of VS and Clean factory subs - well worth watching.

derjenigewelcher

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Thank you very much for this.
Another reason not to trust the dog from ZZ / ZZF / Clean after the 316L lies scandal.
Son of a bitch (if that's true)
 

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So.. to summarise. I interpret it this way..

.ZZF remarketed excess V2S stock as Clean and sold it much cheaper than the ZZFV3.
.Clean buyers were getting a ZZFV2S.
.Clean sold out of V2S due to the low price.
.Clean now ship ZZFV3 badged as Clean
.ZZFV3 and Clean is exact same identical watch, one is expensive the other is cheap but its the exact same item.


..I only watched about 8mins of it so there is probably more.
 
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So in theory Clean should be always cheaper than ZZF but when I compare prices they are the same.
 
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.ZZFV3 and Clean is exact same identical watch, one is expensive the other is cheap but its the exact same item.

This is the part that I don't understand; they are both priced the same on TD websites

I think an interesting way to gauge how true this is, is to see if the ZZF V3 models get the new updated crownguards as well
 
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derjenigewelcher

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Think about the Junior Versions from ZZF that are about 268 USD - i bet thay where the V2 before all world knew about the fact that they sold 316L Steel watches as 904L watches.
 

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CLEAN/ZZF is the most shady factory in reptime history.. atleast after the subgame.
The newest batches now is very good indeed, but they used older parts before (smart but LOL)

CLEAN not giving other factories V4 inserts for their hulk??_?? Seem like they only got V3's..
wth.
 
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Itto what is your general opinion on the overall quality of the watch?

It's really good!

I will post an in-depth review this weekend, but i can already say that it has a lot of positive aspects.
Bezel, insert, etc - all very good. Bracelet felt a bit light first, but after a vaseline-treatment it has vastly improved.
Look and feel overall is top notch, imho.
 
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CG profile still not quite there. Why update it and still not get it right(?). :jeff:
 

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I’m surprised that any of you would have thought it was any different lol
 
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