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    Originally posted by KJ2020 View Post
    Does the Ginault bracelet have 2.0mm springbars?
    Yes, indeed they are 2mm spring bars and carry out the same shape as per gen or of that of the TC models

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      I may have to get myself a Submerciful Maritimer and see what the buzz about

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        I’ve enjoyed this thread and decided to buy a Ginault Ocean Rover II to see how it compares to my VSF 126610LV and to potentially act as a stop gap until I find a reasonably priced TC or JF for sale. In the hand you can really tell the size difference between the 5 digit case and the newer 41mm case which doesn’t really show in the photos but in terms of case finishing they are quite similar.

        The bracelet on the Ginault is definitely better, no sharp edges and very good fit and finish (not that the VSF is bad just the Ginault is better). In terms of the quick adjust both work fine and I wouldn’t say there is any difference in smoothness of operation.

        The biggest difference in quality between the two for me is the bezel feel. To be honest the VSF is as good as I have had on any rep - very little back play, easy to turn, excellent alignment, however, to me the Ginault feels a step up with no back play and a much more solid click.

        For the dial and hands both are equally good with similar quality printing and no flaws. I prefer the crystal on the Ginault but that is probably because the AR is better and the cyclops has slightly less distortion.

        So I think the Ginault is definitely the better watch but the differences are fairly minimal and with the VSF costing roughly a third it is the much better value proposition. I will probably end up selling both if I can find a good TC/JF as I personally prefer the 5 digit case with the Mercedes hands.


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          Originally posted by Parto View Post
          I’ve enjoyed this thread and decided to buy a Ginault Ocean Rover II to see how it compares to my VSF 126610LV
          Thank you for your post
          "What's the biggest tell in a rep?"
          "You!"

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            Really appreciate the photos and feedback. Got to say the Gold Sands colour looks good. I've gone for the white hands, DW and indices (smurf), though keep questioning whether I made the right choice! lol. Will find out next month when mine arrives.

            Part of me feels the golden sand coloured hands help make it look a tiny bit less like a sub clone - which appeals to me. Still probably have a week or two to change my mind before my build slot arrives.

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              Mind has been changed, build order changed to GS :-)

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                Quick question..anyone here know where I can source a ceramic insert for my Ginault? Aftermarket or factory? ARF, VRF, 40mm ceramic inserts will not fit..I've tried.

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                  To all Ginault owners:
                  How does a Ginault order work, will the watch only be made when I have paid? I would love to order one after reading so much praise.

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                    Originally posted by derjenigewelcher View Post
                    To all Ginault owners:
                    How does a Ginault order work, will the watch only be made when I have paid? I would love to order one after reading so much praise.
                    Once you pay, or pay a deposit, then you get added to the build queue.

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                      Originally posted by derjenigewelcher View Post
                      To all Ginault owners:
                      How does a Ginault order work, will the watch only be made when I have paid? I would love to order one after reading so much praise.
                      Once you pay, or pay a deposit, then you get added to the build queue.

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                        Love my ginault

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                          Put your ginaults up!

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                            I happen to own both a Ginault OR2 and VSF 116610 as well so I thought I'd chime in as well incase anyone is comparing:

                            - Overall feel / build quality, likeness to gen sub not withstanding, Ginault wins.

                            - Bezel is a lot tighter and "nuttier" on the Ginault, I thought VSF was good but woah! Bezel insert and marker brightness feels about the same quality, would have preferred a cleaner bezel like the VS on the Ginault instead of having the small markers.

                            - Both dials are as good I think, but its hard to compare since the VSF doesnt have AR and the Ginault has disappearing glass AR. I'd say the Ginault's dial might edge the VS slightly. It does make the floating cyclops a little strange looking though.

                            - Ginault wins big on crystal, but doesnt have blue AR tint on cyclops. I prefer having the blue tint. The clear AR allows you to see the dial and indices clearly, and they are made incredibly well.

                            - Ginault wins on lume (against my example of VSF af least), but colour is less blue and slightly more green/cyan-ish against VSF.

                            - Case - I like the slight bevel on the Ginault. Im not sure if the level of polish on the G is meant to mimic a gen 16610, but VSF wins noticeably in polishing. VSF case sides is a lot more mirror like, the Ginault has noticeably more distortions. I hear VSF uses some high end equipment.

                            - Bracelet - Ginault has much better finishing, feel and smooth bevelled edges, but I believe the VSF is meant to be true to Rolex with its sharper edges.

                            - Clasp - VSF wins here, glidelock is smoother and tighter on my VSF than Ginault. The flip lock thing(?) also opens easier as for some reason the Ginault has a very shallow indent, you need to use your fingernail to dig into the lock where as the VSF's indent is deeper and there is the crown logo to pull on.

                            - Movement - assuming it doesnt fail, the VS3135 is of course a way better movement. Its more quiet, smoother to wind, and has instant date change. The Sw200 in my Ginault lacks all these, but is more known reliability wise.

                            Over all, recognition and design aside, I prefer the Ginault. Im not sure about it being 3 times the VSF's price though, but if it was twice the price I'd happily go for the finer build quality.

                            Brand and rep factor considered, I will be selling the VSF and keeping the Ginault. It has no brand recognition of course, but is actually an extremely well built watch at a reasonable price all things considered. I also know that should I choose to keep it, it will last me a looong time, most likely longer than the rep and would also be easily serviceable. Plus, it has a rather interesting story behind it ????

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                              Many thanks for the comparison, really useful read. Underlines the quality of the ginault but also the bargain the VSF is.


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                                In that sense, the VSF is an incredible bargain! Getting heck of a lot watch for under $500. I just picked up a Citizen new release for $700 and, man the quality is a FAR FAR cry from VSF / Ginault. I wasnt expecting that since I ordered online.

                                (Yes yes, a gen has warranty, corporate support, global logistics, physical stores, original design and r&d costs, etc etc but just comparing item to item... geez they are worlds apart.)

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