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Ginault owner's comparison to reps?
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John will also email you all the info and changes for the OR2 and photos - that's what he did when I asked for more info re buying. Email address is [email protected]. Shame they haven't updated the website in ages for the new models - but then they aren't struggling for business.
Word is that they are going to be bringing out a more original design later this year (or starting pre-orders more likely) - though images haven't been released yet, though the moderator on the Facebook group and a couple others have seen then.
Sorry got really busy the last week or so and didn't get back on here.
I would say the movement in my rep SD43 and the Ginault are very close. Maybe the Ginault is slightly smoother but its a very marginal difference.
The Tudor is much smother than either the SD43 or the Ginault which is to be expected considering the price point difference.
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really nice!
i saw your post detailing the part sources, but i have a few related questions
are the hands, dial, insert from the six digit reps?
if so, can the insert be directly swapped into the stock ginault bezel?
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Thanks. Hands and dial are from six digit ARF with 2824 movement, direct swap, bezel assembly and insert from Vsf..ceramic inserts will not fit the Ginault stock bezel…it is measured less than 37.7mm…Rolex 6 digits are more than 38mm and so are the reps
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thanks for your response
please correct me if i’m wrong, do you mean that the bezel assembly and insert were also from a six digit sub, and fit on the case directly?
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Yes..if you go to page 25 of this thread or click this
https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...to-reps/page25
You will see how the Ginault is assembled...Its pretty close to the six digit subs (my opinion exact same process)..Here's what you'll find from the FB forum (look below from John)..just have to have some watch skills to do the swap..noobs should not attempt..To answer your question..yes, all parts are from 6 digits and do fit the OR2.
you can't put a VSF or any ceramic on the Ginault because they purposely made the bezel assembly smaller to fit the smaller ceramic insert they have..it will not fit..you have to put on a current six digit sized bezel assembly to make the insert fit...
FYI from John:
"Both OR1 and OR2's bezel assemblies and inserts are replaceable. However, the process of swapping the insert can be semi-destructive to the insert itself and other parts involved. You need proper tools and knowledge in order to perform a flawless swap. Some members claim the swap can be done with minimal tools and by following some YouTube tutorials but we have seen many nightmare DIY cases where we ended up having to rescue the watch (with a fee) in the end. Improper techniques/tool can cause the inner/outer ring or the washer to bend. Most of the time, the PE gaskets securing the crystal and inner ring will also need to be replaced to ensure its waterproof ability (microscopic tears occurred during the removal process). Every time the crystal is removed, the underside and the dial, will also need cleaning since dust and foreign particles can get inside easily. Basically, every time the top portion of the watch is removed, our watchmaker will have to go through the complete cleaning and waterproofing process again. It is really not as simple as seen on those Youtube DIY tutorials if you want it done properly. Hence we strongly advise to only make the swap when necessary and be sure to use a skilled watchmaker for the job. Don't swap on a frequent basis as this watch is simplynot designed for this purpose this applies to both generations.
A side note, the ceramic insert is glued down to the bezel assembly tightly. To remove the existing ceramic insert you will have to separate it from the glued surface, and this process will crack/destroy the insert most times if not all the time. So it is doable but basically at the cost of sacrificing the existing ceramic insert."
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thank you for the super informative post
i think i may end up having a go at this, the combination of modern ceramic and glide lock on a five digit case is really compelling…
if only a direct swap of the entire bezel assembly and movement is needed, it does seem relatively straightforward
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no problem man..i wanted a slimmer case..with ceramic insert watch..so i bought a Ginault to build this fantasy watch with leftover parts I had in the bin..then Rolex rolled out with the slimmer lug 41MM subs...boom..
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that may be true but I am not particularly a fan of the seadweller clasp, nor is the case as quite as slim as a five digit
may go the ginault route regardless
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I love my OR1 - Did a little mod work and its the perfect travel watch
nice one! I would have kept the Ginault dial too but mine came with smaller indices (prototype) and being green vs smurf glow also. I need bigger dial markers to read for my blind eyes.. You are also correct..this is my alternate travel watch (when I go to sketchy places watch)
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I cant afford a true travel GMT so a nice 12 hour will do for now
All good brother nice wat h
Hinclimincli KJ2020 and other contributors...many thanks for the loads of information and robust sharing!
I have been offered a Ginault OR II with Kermit bezel for about $1100, the condition is basically almost new so it's a 26%-27% discount of the retail price. I was also offered a TC V6 by another friend but considering everything else (finishing of case, bracelet etc) I feel that the OR II represents a better deal. Especially when I take into consideration of what kj2020 said about the franken possibility with gen crystal, dial and other things as one sees fit. Then again, I probably would just keep it as it is as one never knows how the brand would do in the future.
I have been offered a Ginault OR II with Kermit bezel for about $1100, the condition is basically almost new so it's a 26%-27% discount of the retail price. I was also offered a TC V6 by another friend but considering everything else (finishing of case, bracelet etc) I feel that the OR II represents a better deal. Especially when I take into consideration of what kj2020 said about the franken possibility with gen crystal, dial and other things as one sees fit. Then again, I probably would just keep it as it is as one never knows how the brand would do in the future.
