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    Daytona 116500 Black dial Noob V4 Opinions asked

    In this thread i will share my opinion on the noob v4 daytona black dial and possible modifications.
    Pics i used in this thread are fromscott m which are very nice and perfect to compare different watches.

    I am making this thread because this is my favourite watch,
    I own a few gen vintage Breitling watches, but the black dial ceramic daytona caught my attention and since it's release i can't think about any other watches.
    I have never bought any rep watchess, this watch will be the first rep i will ever buy and i want to make the right decisions without regrets afterwards.
    The last 3 years i've been following the daytona rep scene, in the beginning i would go for the arf v2, but since noob came with the 904 steel and fully replicated movement i was sold to noob.

    In my opinion the black noob v4 dial is pretty good, the only thing i can spot right away is the O in rolex which is not correct & the silver from the subdials is too shiny.
    But other than that, there aren't really other things that bother me.
    A possible modification would be to swap the noob v4 dial with an arf.
    In comparison to the ARF V3 dial i think the crown on the noob V4 is better but the subdials and text is better on the ARF.

    In my opinion i conclude that swapping the Noob V4 dial with the ARF dial is not worth it for me.
    Why? Getting my hands on the ARF dial would be very hard and expensive & having someone to modify the dial to fit the noob v4 casing would be would be a big expense.

    Another possible modification would be to swap the noob v4 ceramic bezel with the clean factory bezel.
    This might be worth to do, the bezels are available as spare parts. The only thing holding me back, is the method to swap out the bezels as i can not find any detailed guides on how it's done.

    So the bezel is something i might swap out, for that i'm asking your opinions or experiences with the clean factory bezel in comparison to the noob v4 one.

    I based my opinion for the dial mostly on the comparisons from scott m. I modified his comparison of the noob v3 to the arf one and added the noob v4 (i know the allignment of the v4 picture isn't 100% correct.)


    My opinion for the bezel i based on this pic also by scott m.




    If i buy the watch from a recommended TD, the first thing i will do is getting a full service on the movement by my local watchmaker which is a good friend of mine.
    He might also be able to replace the bezel (i'm not sure how it works with the gasket etc...? I think he will though) , but he is not familiar with rep watches.
    That's why i prefer not to replace the dial as the shaving of the arf dial might be a too unfamiliar job for him.

    Thanks for listening to my opinion, and now i'm curious about yours and your experiences!

    Kind regards



    #2
    Once you see the difference in noob and arf dials side by side, you will swap your noob dial for an arf.

    ​​​​​​Arf dial is around 100$, shaving and installing it is around 120-150$ dollars additionally.
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    Last edited by Storm069; 05-01-21, 22:45.

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      #3
      Personally, if I was buying another one, I’d probably get the Noob and keep it completely stock (now they seem to have released a decent one). So my recommendation would be to get the watch, wear it, and after living with it for a time you’ll have a better sense of whether you really need to change anything at all. These reps are so good, and the difference from gen is so minuscule, that no one but you will ever know it’s a rep.

      “How black is the bezel” is a non-issue - they’re all dense black ceramic and any difference is down to the lighting it’s photographed under.

      The Clean bezel is the tiniest bit more accurate in certain respects, but it has a reputation for paint fade in the markers. This can be fixed of course.

      It’s worth considering servicing the watch. Both my Noob Daytonas have been serviced - I bought one already serviced, the other stopped working after a couple of hours use and needed fixing. But if I hadn’t needed to get it done, I’d have worn it till something went wrong, because I’m not big on foresight.

      BTW, if you did decide on an ARF dial, you can get the inside of the Noob case milled to take the dial. That’s what ado213 did with my Noob/ARF panda hybrid.
      Last edited by p0pperini; 05-01-21, 23:06.
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        #4
        I’d buy noob. Keep it stock. Call it a day. No need to mess around with CF bezel and ARf dial or whatever. IMo


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          #5
          I also don’t like the mismatching lume (in daylight) between ARF dial and noob hands. It irritates me eyes unfortunately


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            #6
            Originally posted by mech500 View Post
            I also don’t like the mismatching lume (in daylight) between ARF dial and noob hands. It irritates me eyes unfortunately


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            That’s why you buy the ARF hands also

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              #7
              Originally posted by mech500 View Post
              I’d buy noob. Keep it stock. Call it a day. No need to mess around with CF bezel and ARf dial or whatever. IMo


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              i came to this conclusion as well. And I have done both routes already
              I'm in love with the shape of Roo // Sucker for 3-6-9 dials

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                #8
                Everyone is criticizing the Noob v4 dial, and rightfully so, but it seems it’s all about issues with the black dial. Is the Noob white dial filled with issues also making the ARF white dial superior?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Accord11 View Post
                  Everyone is criticizing the Noob v4 dial, and rightfully so, but it seems it’s all about issues with the black dial. Is the Noob white dial filled with issues also making the ARF white dial superior?
                  i'm no ANALyst here but generally ARF has better detailing regardless of which version. The problem is, this is now such a minute difference one who is not so fixated can live happily with stock Noob generally speaking
                  I'm in love with the shape of Roo // Sucker for 3-6-9 dials

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Accord11 View Post

                    That’s why you buy the ARF hands also
                    As far as I know the ARF Hands (7750 movement) will not fit the Noob (SA4130) without extensive modding. To be honest I have had ARF and Noob Daytonas in the past and do not see much difference between the two handsets. Some other member has also stated some time ago that they come both from the same supplier. However not sure if this is true.

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                      #11
                      Here is a great tutorial how you change a (ceramic) bezel on a Daytona:

                      https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...-daytona-bezel

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                        #12
                        The donut O bothers me on these noob dials. The only one they got right has been the PN


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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Accord11 View Post

                          That’s why you buy the ARF hands also
                          The ARF hands don't fit the Noob 4130 movement.

                          Originally posted by Tony Clifton View Post
                          Here is a great tutorial how you change a (ceramic) bezel on a Daytona:

                          https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...-daytona-bezel
                          That's a good link to post Tony, I also have it bookmarked and it's a useful guide for anyone who's planning a DIY bezel swap. Coincidentally I've got two Daytonas sat on my desk today - an ARF 116520 v1 and a Noob 116500 with a gen 116520 black dial, Prof crystal and CF ceramic bezel. I'm putting the SS bezel/crystal from the ARF onto the Noob to complete the 116520 look. The Prof crystal is lovely for showing off the gen dial, but I think I prefer the more gen-like reflective look of the ARF glass.

                          Last edited by p0pperini; 06-01-21, 09:18.
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                            #14
                            Thanks for the advice guys, i think i will ineed go for the stock noob and get it serviced. I might order the CF bezel for later replacemt if the noob bezel gets damaged or too dirty.
                            The comparison from jtime is showing the cf bezel to the gen one.
                            https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...-insert-vs-gen

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by p0pperini View Post

                              The ARF hands don't fit the Noob 4130 movement.


                              That's a good link to post Tony, I also have it bookmarked and it's a useful guide for anyone who's planning a DIY bezel swap. Coincidentally I've got two Daytonas sat on my desk today - an ARF 116520 v1 and a Noob 116500 with a gen 116520 black dial, Prof crystal and CF ceramic bezel. I'm putting the SS bezel/crystal from the ARF onto the Noob to complete the 116520 look. The Prof crystal is lovely for showing off the gen dial, but I think I prefer the more gen-like reflective look of the ARF glass.
                              pics or it's not happening !!!

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