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Clean Factory New Submariner Series Review (Incl. Comparison Pics vs Gen)

GIUSERT

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Hi I'm new, today I'm going to buy a Submariner no data, CLEAN FACTORY. As soon as I receive the photos I will send them to help me with the purchase. Thanks I will keep you updated
 

Fedon06

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Hey, has anyone handled a Clean (114060 to be precise) and a Gen in hand together? Apart from crown guards, how is the general feel of Clean vs Gen? Does it feel off or it’s really good?

considering that Gen owners dont know the details of these watches as we do :D

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DougDoug

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Just noticed that vsf S19 clasp has this huge shark whale or catfish mouth gap. Since clean is using arf clasp, i believe clean clasp do not have this problem. Any one can share a pic of their clean clasp on this photo shot angle? Thanks


Here you go:
 
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DougDoug

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Compared to Gen 116610LV, Clean 114060 felt really good.

Well, it's my first Rep but i'm impressed generally. Visually no differences to me, it's only when you touch it you can feel some different like bezel tightness and the movement when you wind it.

Visually no difference: On wrist, not with a loupe. With a loupe, even gen Rolex is not perfect. Perhaps a gen Lange will be perfect.
 

boaz_jachin

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Has anyone figured out if they all have this copper colour underneath the hands?

I assumes you mean the copper colored Part between the hands... Thats actually brass and the cannon pinion. The Part were the hands are pressed on. As far as i know they all have this but on the wirst nobody can see this.
 

Vacco

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I assumes you mean the copper colored Part between the hands... Thats actually brass and the cannon pinion. The Part were the hands are pressed on. As far as i know they all have this but on the wirst nobody can see this.

I never knew about it until now, does the GEN also have that?
 

Itto

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I never knew about it until now, does the GEN also have that?

Here's a pic of a gen (found on a forum) that also have this "feature". It depends on the lighting, on the wrist it's really not noticeable.


(Note that CF accurately replicates the 2017 dial, just in case anybody's wondering about the font difference)
 

Knackundback

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I got my QC pic today von Miro for my clean 114060, can I post it here for more opinions?


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boaz_jachin

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I never knew about it until now, does the GEN also have that?

Yes gen also has it.

You have the cannon pinion which inside of it there is the second hand pinion (the little pin you put the seconds hand on). Then you have the hour wheel wich goes on top of the cannon pinion and wich holds the hour hand. The Minute Hand goes on the cannon pinion itself. The brass colored Part is most likely the hour wheel and it is brass on the gen as well. So i assume its not a flaw at all.
 
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Knackundback

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Yes gen also has it.

You have the cannon pinion wich and inside of it there is the second hand pinion (the little pin you put the seconds wheel on). The you have the hour wheel wich goes on top of the cannon pinion and wich holds the hour hand. The Minute Hand goes on the cannon pinion itself. The brass colored Part is most likely the hour wheel and it is brass on the gen as well. So i assume its not a flaw at all.

Thanks for this!


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boaz_jachin

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Here's a pic of a gen (found on a forum) that also have this "feature". It depends on the lighting, on the wrist it's really not noticeable.


(Note that CF accurately replicates the 2017 dial, just in case anybody's wondering about the font difference)

If thats the thing asked about, yes thats the hour wheel.
 

boaz_jachin

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Once you remove the hands, it looks like this.

You van clearly see the brass hour wheel over the steel cannon pinion