Clean Factory New Submariner Series Review (Incl. Comparison Pics vs Gen)

[Chief_FFM]

Do you know if clean noD has case engravement between the lugs with the ref 114060 or still the wrong 116610 ?

 

[Kalev007]

Still waiting for my no-date to arrive but I've ordered the 116610LN as well so QC will follow once received.

 

[GoshaRubchinskiy]

i just posted a few pics on a qc i got for the no date from clean factory if anyone wants to check it out. i apoligize if i put it on the wrong area.
New Clean Factory Black sub no date - Replica Watch Info (replica-watch.info)

 

[wonkycrown]

i just posted a few pics on a qc i got for the no date from clean factory if anyone wants to check it out. i apoligize if i put it on the wrong area.
New Clean Factory Black sub no date - Replica Watch Info (replica-watch.info)

Looks good.

I'm not sure what was going on at the ZZF factory prior to the take over from Clean, but the last couple of V3's I bought were really bad. Both had considerable longitudinal play in the SEL's that was not visible from the QC images and one of them also had bad rehaut alignment which I was not too bothered about but when I felt the SEL's I was pretty annoyed. To top it all off, one of the links was damaged too that was covered by the wrapping!

I removed the bracelet and gave it a baby oil bath and whilst it was soaking thought I would try fitting the bracelet from my older V2. On both pieces the SEL did not have any pinch or interference when sliding it into the case like my V2 did, so it appears the tolereances were off a little on the case lug dimensions? Also, when trying to fit the SEL's into place the springbars did not locate on one side per spring bar. This was the same over the two watches. Upon removal of the SEL's again I noticed that the springbars were different to the ones in my V2. The V3 ones actually look smaller and more feeble by comparison.

It is also worth noting that the larger springbar from the V2 still fits pefectly into the case of the V3 on it's own without SEL so suggests to me that the machining is off somewhere? What do you guys think? All I know is that I'm staying away from ZZF/Clean for a while until quality is back up to what it was.

V3 LEFT V2 RIGHT

Damage

 

[BiH855]

I also assume a batch thing, slightly wrong drilled holes and instead of throwing the cases away they just took smaller ones that still fit..
But would be pissed off too with too wobbly sels!

that has certainly to do with the bracelet change to ARF, i assume they didn't fit the cases which were made for the v2 bracelets so this was the solution.. they surely sorted that out now on the clean Version.. at least i hope so

 

[GoshaRubchinskiy]

Looks good.

I'm not sure what was going on at the ZZF factory prior to the take over from Clean, but the last couple of V3's I bought were really bad. Both had considerable longitudinal play in the SEL's that was not visible from the QC images and one of them also had bad rehaut alignment which I was not too bothered about but when I felt the SEL's I was pretty annoyed. To top it all off, one of the links was damaged too that was covered by the wrapping!

I removed the bracelet and gave it a baby oil bath and whilst it was soaking thought I would try fitting the bracelet from my older V2. On both pieces the SEL did not have any pinch or interference when sliding it into the case like my V2 did, so it appears the tolereances were off a little on the case lug dimensions? Also, when trying to fit the SEL's into place the springbars did not locate on one side per spring bar. This was the same over the two watches. Upon removal of the SEL's again I noticed that the springbars were different to the ones in my V2. The V3 ones actually look smaller and more feeble by comparison.

It is also worth noting that the larger springbar from the V2 still fits pefectly into the case of the V3 on it's own without SEL so suggests to me that the machining is off somewhere? What do you guys think? All I know is that I'm staying away from ZZF/Clean for a while until quality is back up to what it was.

V3 LEFT V2 RIGHT

Damage

thanks for that info. maybe it was a bad batch or something but i will keep u updated once i get the watch

 

[garnier]

Is the clean factory no date sub the best of the available ones?

 

[Kalev007]

Rehaut a bit off 3 to 6 but nothing major more or less gen spec.

Still OFFICIALLY not ALL Y (hulk and no-date both have ALL Y).

And one big upgrade over the no-date I posted earlier the monkey on the case back is now in colour and it's a different monkey. These will become collectible for sure.

 

[StreetFighter]

See the monkey on the back of that watch? That’s you guys. Why do you buy this sub-standard expensive poor quality wrong shape case with shit movement crap? Have you not read the VSF threads? They are selling watches that actually look and feel like a Rolex Submariner- for less money!

 

[Replisimio]

I think monkeys make these lol!


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[StreetFighter]

That's a GMT case they are using. You guys a need to learn how to look at a rep! Look at the crown guards FFS..

Look, here is a genuine GMT and a Submariner side by side..

Which crown guards are Clean copying???

Shit quality too, it feels like it came out a christmas cracker. Enjoy.

 

[StreetFighter]

Enjoy your GMTmariner!

 

[Subdued]

This VSF fanboy always cry?

 

[Subdued]

See the monkey on the back of that watch? That’s you guys. Why do you buy this sub-standard expensive poor quality wrong shape case with shit movement crap? Have you not read the VSF threads? They are selling watches that actually look and feel like a Rolex Submariner- for less money!

Why do you care about VSF so much fanboy?

 

[StreetFighter]

Not crying.. laughing at the ignorance of Clean ZZF buyers buying (poorly made but expensive) GMTmariners because A. they don’t know what a Sub looks like and B. are ignorant of what’s right under their nose for less money! You are in this group? :spit:

 

[Bobi01]

So who have better hulk dial now atm, zf or this new clean?

 

[Subdued]

Not crying.. laughing at the ignorance of Clean ZZF buyers buying (poorly made but expensive) GMTmariners because A. they don’t know what a Sub looks like and B. are ignorant of what’s right under their nose for less money! You are in this group? :spit:

You call people monkeys and ignorant if they dont share your preference. Lol

 

[Raelman007]

Does anyone have a CF VSF and Gen they can compare and review?

I think the CF looks great but haven't seen the VSF. My ZZF V3 is pretty damn close to my Gen.

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[Bobi01]

Does anyone have a CF VSF and Gen they can compare and review?

I think the CF looks great but haven't seen the VSF. My ZZF V3 is pretty damn close to my Gen.

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Can you show gen vs zzf v3 comparison? On few lights

 

[Papagio]

Hi everything,

I received my QC from my TD. I am unsure about the rehaut alignment. As far as you know, are there examples with better rehaut alignment ?

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