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    Originally posted by puretime View Post

    Did you check my pics my friend? Mine doesnt have any gaps.



    I think the sample one Ryan's site was not a good one, I have reported to the maker and they will look into this.
    Hey Angus, I was referring to the pictures that you posted here (the comparison with gen and with VSF), I didn't check your website. This last picture that you posted seems better indeed. If there is no SEL gap then we definitely have a great contender IMO

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      Originally posted by Tobel View Post

      Hey Angus, I was referring to the pictures that you posted here (the comparison with gen and with VSF), I didn't check your website. This last picture that you posted seems better indeed. If there is no SEL gap then we definitely have a great contender IMO
      Finally some consensus.




      Excited for this watch to be released!!

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        Originally posted by foozoo58 View Post

        Finally some consensus.




        Excited for this watch to be released!!
        There is no consensus, there is a couple of opinions, and mine had a big IF in the statement.

        You've already been asked to calm down with that kind of posts. No one has received the ZF and has had it in hand yet except Angus. So there is no truth yet and absolutely no consensus. Stop posting these many meaningless, misleading and annoying messages



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          Originally posted by Tobel View Post

          There is no consensus, there is a couple of opinions, and mine had a big IF in the statement.

          You've already been asked to calm down with that kind of posts. No one has received the ZF and has had it in hand yet except Angus. So there is no truth yet and absolutely no consensus. Stop posting these many meaningless, misleading and annoying messages


          Me conversing with you is calm.

          In addition, angus has told us that he thinks this is the best rep of the year. Which means me repeating a TRUSTED dealer's exact claims makes my statements not misleading. It makes them grounded in evidence.


          As to the annoying part, you have a right to think whatever you want.

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            Originally posted by Shany View Post
            Hard to Tell...

            Both ZF and VSF Dial Markers Are to big
            Font is on Vsf better
            Hands Are on zf better
            Crystal Reflexion is on vsf better but crystal height on zf
            Datewheel is on zf better
            Insert is zf better even when i dont like the zzf inserts they Are also to dark im low light, but vsf is to light the color looks like the steel but ist should Look platin.
            Pearl both misses the Color but zf is a Bit better

            Case ? I dont know both Look the same

            I wonder of both are genspec built so i Can plug and Play gen Parts on Both?
            Thanks man this is very fair and accurate observations. Probably none of these are noticeable without side by side comparison, but nonetheless these can help folk choose which ones are more important/less important for them. To be honest even as someone who studied and is familiar with all these “tell”s, I will never be confident enough to know if someone is sporting a rep for these batch of excellent release.

            Even if I am to hold it in hand, due to different lighting circumstances, the biggest tell I can rely on will not be any of these items but most likely the feel of the bracelet in my hand - something that can never be spotted in forum pictures. One of the best rep bracelet I had is the NOOB Daytona. They are so so smooth with zero sharp edge that really convey a gen feel.

            puretime would you be able to comment on the bracelet quality in hand?

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              Originally posted by foozoo58 View Post

              Me conversing with you is calm.

              In addition, angus has told us that he thinks this is the best rep of the year. Which means me repeating a TRUSTED dealer's exact claims makes my statements not misleading. It makes them grounded in evidence.


              As to the annoying part, you have a right to think whatever you want.
              Let me put this as a genuine piece of advice, I'm not trying to argue here, but really to help you understand. Calming down has nothing to do with your tone, thankfully you haven't been disrespectful. But when several senior members are telling you that there is just too many of your posts that revolve around "hey it's super rep", "hey it's NWBIG", "I'm super excited", "I can't wait", then the wise thing to do is to take the feedback and try to act upon it, instead of pushing back systematically. That's what calming down means.

              Similarly you seem to keep confusing truth, evidence and opinions. I have a lot of respect for Angus, but his claims - to use your word - remain opinions, just like anybody's here. So until people start receiving their ZF, and we have a large enough sample size of folks sharing their opinions, we can't state that a watch is NWBIG or "the best".

              I don't have anything for or against ZF. My latest rep is a ZF 15400 which I love, and everybody included me would benefit from finally having a super rep 116610. But let's not jump the gun nor pollute the forum with messages that do not add value (cf a couple of sentences above).

              Now this is the last time that I'll spend to explain nicely, so I hope that you reconsider your position and behavior for everyone's sake, and I thank you for that in advance

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                Originally posted by Shany View Post
                Hard to Tell...

                Both ZF and VSF Dial Markers Are to big
                Font is on Vsf better
                Hands Are on zf better
                Crystal Reflexion is on vsf better but crystal height on zf
                Datewheel is on zf better
                Insert is zf better even when i dont like the zzf inserts they Are also to dark im low light, but vsf is to light the color looks like the steel but ist should Look platin.
                Pearl both misses the Color but zf is a Bit better

                Case ? I dont know both Look the same

                I wonder of both are genspec built so i Can plug and Play gen Parts on Both?
                Thank for short summarize dude!

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                  Originally posted by foozoo58 View Post

                  Me conversing with you is calm.

                  In addition, angus has told us that he thinks this is the best rep of the year. Which means me repeating a TRUSTED dealer's exact claims makes my statements not misleading. It makes them grounded in evidence.


                  As to the annoying part, you have a right to think whatever you want.
                  Yes yes TD's words grounded evidence they must be really 1:1 as well like listed on every TD site.

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