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abd148

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Hey guys just wanted to know before i pull the trigger, do you guys have any problems with your replica gmt masters from arf or vrf or gmf, because ive seen a few posts and seems that they do run into problems in the movement. And im wondering what Gmt movement is better, SH3186-SA3186- or A3186? I am kinda worried if i get one it would break in a week or something, Im new here so im not completely sure. (excuse my bad english)
 

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just wanted to know before i pull the trigger
Suicide is a bit of an extreme threat to make - people are happy to help without you going to th... oh wait were you just using an unnecessarily dramatic metaphor for ordering a watch?
 
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Regarding GMT movements, I suggest reading GMT Movements Explained to understand them better and learn how to recognize what is being offered.

There are so far only 3 true 3185/6 clones being offered, listed here in order of best to worst

VRF - VR3185 based on VR3135
ARF - SH3186 based on SH3135
GMF - SA3186 based on SA3135

Not coincidentally the 3135 movements these GMTs are based on are also ranked in the same order of best to worst.

There are many other threads discussing the pros and cons of 3135 movements, it is general knowledge that the SA3135 commonly used by BP/GMF and Noob among others, is the least preferred of the available clone 3135s.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...n-gen-sa-sh-vr

The Noob CHS A3186 timebomb is a modified 2824. Noob has not offered a true clone 3186 as of yet.

There are only three model releases with true clone movements. 116710LN, BLNR, and 116713LN.

Factories and dealers often call the 2824 CHS an "A3186", this is misleading and they are not true clones like the others. Looking at the movement pics will confirm this.

GMF releases true clone 3186 GMTs
 
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abd148

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Suicide is a bit of an extreme threat to make - people are happy to help without you going to th... oh wait were you just using an unnecessarily dramatic metaphor for ordering a watch?

lmao yea XD i shouldnt have used that
 
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Regarding GMT movements, I suggest reading GMT Movements Explained to understand them better and learn how to recognize what is being offered.

There are so far only 3 true 3185/6 clones being offered, listed here in order of best to worst

VRF - VR3185 based on VR3135
ARF - SH3186 based on SH3135
GMF - SA3186 based on SA3135

Not coincidentally the 3135 movements these GMTs are based on are also ranked in the same order of best to worst.

There are many other threads discussing the pros and cons of 3135 movements, it is general knowledge that the SA3135 commonly used by BP/GMF and Noob among others, is the least preferred of the available clone 3135s.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...n-gen-sa-sh-vr

The Noob CHS A3186 timebomb is a modified 2824. Noob has not offered a true clone 3186 as of yet.

There are only three model releases with true clone movements. 116710LN, BLNR, and 116713LN.

Factories and dealers often call the 2824 CHS an "A3186", this is misleading and they are not true clones like the others. Looking at the movement pics will confirm this.

GMF releases true clone 3186 GMTs

Thank u so much for this it really helped, so the vr3185 is the most reliable. But in puretime it shows me that the vrf blnr has the SA3186.. Is this a typo? im hoping it would be.
 
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Thank u so much for this it really helped, so the vr3185 is the most reliable. But in puretime it shows me that the vrf blnr has the SA3186.. Is this a typo? im hoping it would be.

All VRF GMTs have a VR3185. TDs frequently have mistakes on websites. Be aware that the VRF Batman insert sucks. The GMF insert is much better. So pick your poison, lol.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-tudor-replicas/8344083-vrf-batman-released

https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...707299-gmf-released-a-gmt-3186-clone-movement
 

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All the true clone GMT movements (VR3185, SH3186 and SA3186) are relatively new. It's hard to comment on their reliability and problem free nature so early...Got to give it 6 to 9 more months. Anyways, stay away from SA3186 from GMF (the only reason to consider it is insert. As KJ mentioned, pick your poison).
 
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All the true clone GMT movements (VR3185, SH3186 and SA3186) are relatively new. It's hard to comment on their reliability and problem free nature so early...Got to give it 6 to 9 more months. Anyways, stay away from SA3186 from GMF (the only reason to consider it is insert. As KJ mentioned, pick your poison).

wasn't GMF's movement a timebomb crap?
 

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wasn't GMF's movement a timebomb crap?

This is the new true clone 3186 CHS movement. I don't think this is the same timebomb crap that other factories like Noob was using.
 
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This is the best written description and advice from a very senior watch guru here that will tell you everything you need to know. It tells you everything about those movements.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...55-compare-arf-116710ln-with-the-vrf-116710ln

I don’t know if I’d say everything you need to know. I don’t know if I’d say 1/5th of what you should know could be contained in that thread. It is a good start though but there’s a lot of nonsense in that thread too so it’s not exactly efficient reading.


but as far as offering direction, it depends on what the op wants. And he really doesn’t tell us much other than a clone movement. Based on that:

VRF 116710LN is the way to go.
 
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page 3 of the thread and the movement has been identified as an SA3186, which is crap https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...-gmf-released-a-gmt-3186-clone-movement/page3

The SA3186 is only crap insofar as the SA3135 is crap. It is not a timebomb like the 2824 CHS though. Also if it fails, it can be replaced with the awesome VR3185, using the same dial and hands. Unlike the 2824 timebomb whose replacement requires new hands and maybe a dial mod depending on which replacement movement is chosen.
 
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The SA3186 is only crap insofar as the SA3135 is crap. It is not a timebomb like the 2824 CHS though. Also if it fails, it can be replaced with the awesome VR3185, using the same dial and hands. Unlike the 2824 timebomb whose replacement requires new hands and maybe a dial mod depending on which replacement movement is chosen.

good to know!
 
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