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Bezel and Dial Review of ZZF V2S 116610LV Submariner and Comparison vs. Gen, ARF V3 and Noob V10

Smoke

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The markers on the insert is definitely too ARF-like. Too bold and too thick.

Yeah I'm sure of this bro definitely a step back on the engravings. And a step forward on the green shade.i feel the pearl is impossible to replicate because they never get it right.but the pre production insert I have is almost perfect in colour and font .so not sure what zzf are doing
 
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You can already see it there. The question is how noticeable is it on the wrist. I‘m not that optimistic


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Smoke

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Thanks! Are those fingerprints able to be cleaned?

Yes I would use dish dishwashing liquid on a cloth and gently clean the insert.if it dont come off ask for a replacement insert .but should come off people get this same stain off the gen GMT all the time
 
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I own the v2. I feel the top cg is bigger then the other one
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Yeah I'm sure of this bro definitely a step back on the engravings. And a step forward on the green shade.i feel the pearl is impossible to replicate because they never get it right.but the pre production insert I have is almost perfect in colour and font .so not sure what zzf are doing

I’ve got $500, would you go ARFv3 or ZZFv2s on the Hulk? Directed to Smoke
 

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Question: In all the gen subs (not just LV), what is the dark gap between where the inner side of the bezel ends and the crystal starts. No rep seems to ever have this? Is it due to the bezel or crystal?


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Can’t see the picture but if you are talking about the gap between outer edge of crystal and inner edge of insert then know that the difference between inner and outer diameter of rep Rolex ceramic inserts is pretty much always bigger than gen (gen ceramic inserts are thinner)
 

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I’d rather the font be a little too thicc than thin like the original clean inserts. Pics where gen font looks thicker than usual is just because the engravings are picking up more light and the walls are being included
 
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I went back and examined LI's insert pics in the first post of this thread more closely and you can clearly see that the marker cutouts for the numerals are slightly deeper and thicker than the gen. The bar cutouts at 5,15,30, etc do not look thicker to me, nor do the mini-bar cutouts for single minutes. But on the numerals, the 1 looks thicker, and the thickness is really apparent if you look at the size of the green rectangles inside all of the zeroes. It's not off that much, but the extra depth and thickness that smoke saw indeed indicates it's noticeable to the eye and once we see it we can't unsee it. I'm hoping it will be like the ARF LN GMT insert which is also too deep but looks quite good on the wrist anyway. I won't ever be putting mine next to a gen. Pics credit to Li jtimewatch

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I agree that slightly thicker is better than thinner. And anyone whose ever had a Spongebob mod knows that the way he chamfers the top of the cutout walls where they join the insert flats makes the markers look slightly thicker all the way around. So I believe this will be OK, for most of us.
 
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Is it fair to say:

v2s = v2
+ better insert green color (remains to be seen in outside sunlight)
- thicker and deeper font on insert numbers (but maybe ok on wrist)
- CG is narrower

The insert color is one of the first things you notice on the hulk. So v2s is still probably a step forward.
 
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Is it fair to say:

v2s = v2
+ better insert green color (remains to be seen in outside sunlight)
- thicker and deeper font on insert numbers (but maybe ok on wrist)
- CG is narrower

The insert color is one of the first things you notice on the hulk. So v2s is still probably a step forward.

That's a good summary IMO
 
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Great post. One thing I've wondered (and this could just be me being nit-picky), but does the 12 o'clock triangular marker seem a little angled to the left? I would imagine the tip of the trinagle should point directly the the middle of the Rolex Crown Logo, but in almost all the pictures, it seems to be pointing slightly to the left. Anyone else see that?