Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

6538 budget build progress. Plus a question about hands!

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • 6538 budget build progress. Plus a question about hands!

    Hi rep folk - Happy New Year's Eve!

    I'm working on a budget 6538 build at the moment. The base is the cheap Bond from Marvellous with a case marked 6541 (the same case used for the budget vintage Milgauss). I know it's very familiar to the modders out there - it has no case chamfers whatsoever, everything is sharp and the bezel can cut your fingers...

    So far, I've:
    • Drilled the lugs, counter-sunk them
    • Filed chamfers on the case
    • Polished and Cape Codded the whole case (which led to me thinking I'd poisoned myself as I coincidentally got a tummy bug the same day as doing the Cape Cod work, as it has "Danger of Death" warnings on the packaging..!)
    • Replaced the plexi with a Sternkreuz Tropic 19 from Cousins. I distressed the shit out of it, and then polished it back to transparency, leaving evidence of "age"... (I'll probably polish a bit more of the scratching out before I reassemble it for the second time - see below)
    • Bleached and distressed the insert (just a bit) and coloured the lume pip to match the dial
    • Sanded and softened the bezel, and brassed it using a blowtorch
    • Replaced the dial with one from Raffles. Coloured and aged the dial with coffee plus matt and gloss spray varnish
    • Aged the lume on the hands with coffee
    I took a few pics - but then realised that there were some "issues" relating to my l33t mod skillz.







    In my usual absent-minded enthusiastic haste to get it all back together and on my wrist, I completely forgot to place the spacer between the dial and the movement - so the dial was clamped against the date wheel. Plus, I also lost the plastic gasket that fits on the movement ring and forgot about that too - and these factors meant that the whole lot moved about in the case once it was back together... As a result, the watch didn't really work very well.

    Also, my attempts to glue in the crystal using just a little hypo cement had resulted in a hyper-thin string of hypo across the inside of the crystal. But that didn't really matter, as the crystal promptly fell out anyway.

    Having realised my errors, I'm in the process of rebuilding it again. And while doing so, I wanted to attend to the silver hands as well - replace them with gilt. So to start off, I sanded the silver finish off the hands (to reveal the gilt colour underneath) and I've currently got them in an "accelerated aging atmosphere" that I read about - a vinegar and salt fog made by microwaving a vinegar soaked cloth in a container, adding salt and then putting the hands in with it for a day or so. It'll be interesting to see how that works out (or doesn't!).

    However, the hands aren't right and I'd like to replace them. I'm thinking the hand set with code AK from Tiger Concepts would fit the bill: http://www.tiger-concept.com/hands-all.html It's a gilt set with a white seconds hand. Does anyone know this set, and whether the minute hand is the long 13mm one that it ought to be? I've searched but can't find much info on them. If anyone can confirm, or has any recommendations for an alternative set of hands, I'd really appreciate it.
    Last edited by p0pperini; 03-01-20, 07:31.

  • anj4de
    replied
    Just abosultely phanstatic...this masterpeice under a white dinner jacket... ;.-)

    Leave a comment:


  • Netesac
    replied
    Originally posted by p0pperini View Post
    Here you go Netesac

    Ooh! That was my 1000th post. Yay!
    p0pperini Thanks!

    Leave a comment:


  • p0pperini
    replied
    Once again, thank you Redheart for sharing your recommendations. I've ordered a set of the Swiss A * F diamond needle files from Cousins, which seem a decent spec for less money (I really am a cheapskate). I already have that Stanley vise, it is a handy and versatile piece of equipment!

    Leave a comment:


  • Redheart
    replied
    Congrats on the 1000th!
    Originally posted by n0bby View Post


    Thanks Redheart - I'm always looking for the excuse to upgrade from my cheapo amateur tools to something that makes me feel more professional (even if the results are still amateur...) - would you have any recommendations/links?
    Oh I am no pro either! But after doing two watches with the cheapo diamond and rasp file, I know they really suck badly.
    Then I thought, what the heck let's try good file, and then I looked a bit for info.
    Diamond files are the best because they are solid, they cut in all direction.

    Here is the set I bought, the fine one that is the cheapest of the 3, those are finishing files, and are very small, it's perfect for watchmaking and jewelry grinding. Try to buy only the flat and the semi ronde. I use them 90% of the times.

    https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/va...-files-classic



    You will need a handle, I have bought this one

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pferd-12299.../dp/B003CP0ORO

    I am sure one can find good quality japanese diamond file for half the price though!


    Oh and this is a must, and will save you precious fingers! The jaws are rubbers, it's perfect for small jobs! I really like it a lot.
    https://www.otelo.fr/is-bin/INTERSHO...gn=ConfCdeInt1
    Last edited by Redheart; 31-01-20, 22:50.

    Leave a comment:


  • p0pperini
    replied
    Originally posted by Netesac View Post
    Also, please link to your 1675 project. That is next on my list
    Here you go Netesac

    Ooh! That was my 1000th post. Yay!
    Last edited by p0pperini; 31-01-20, 19:45.

    Leave a comment:


  • Netesac
    replied
    n0bbyRedheart Thanks for the suggestions. Would love to see some pictures. Also, please link to your 1675 project. That is next on my list ​​​​​​​

    Leave a comment:


  • p0pperini
    replied
    Originally posted by Redheart View Post
    I might suggest to go for the high quality swiss file, for the flat and the semi ronde diamonf file. They will Outlast you, while the cheap ones are so rough and will fail eventually.
    Thanks Redheart - I'm always looking for the excuse to upgrade from my cheapo amateur tools to something that makes me feel more professional (even if the results are still amateur...) - would you have any recommendations/links?

    Leave a comment:


  • Redheart
    replied
    Originally posted by Redheart View Post
    I might suggest to go for the high quality swiss file, for the flat and the semi ronde diamonf file. They will Outlast you, while the cheap ones are so rough and will fail eventually.
    You gain on efficiency and time and précision for after buffing

    Leave a comment:


  • Redheart
    replied
    I might suggest to go for the high quality swiss file, for the flat and the semi ronde diamonf file. They will Outlast you, while the cheap ones are so rough and will fail eventually.

    Leave a comment:


  • p0pperini
    replied
    Originally posted by Netesac View Post
    n0bby Great job! Looks stellar.

    P.S. Can you provide some suggestions on how to chamfer the edges? I'm looking to do the same, but have been nervous about it. Pictures would help. Thanks.
    Netesac Hi buddy, sorry, I completely missed this question! I'm about to start on some case modding of a 1675, and I'll take some pics while that's in progress - however it's tricky to take 'em, because I do it with the watch case in one hand, and a diamond file in the other...

    I've tried using a Dremel a couple of times but it's way too heart-stoppingly fast and furious for my liking, so I'm finding I prefer to go slowly - with a set of cheap diamond files from eBay. There's not a lot to describe really; start off with the wide flat diamond file to get the chamfer (using online close-ups of the look you're aiming for as reference). File across the lug edge, not along it. Once the chamfer look about right, give them a sanding with fine grit sandpaper wrapped round something flat (I use an emery board) and then I finish with a buff on my cheap variable speed buffing machine (fleabay again). This will tend to soften the whole thing, but that's what I prefer on these vintage cases.

    Oh, and the final touch is to re-brush across the tops of the lugs with scotch-brite pad, diagonally, to reinstate the brushed finish that they always have (use any Sub pic as reference!).
    Last edited by p0pperini; 31-01-20, 10:21.

    Leave a comment:


  • joonwantswatches
    replied
    Originally posted by n0bby View Post
    The latter. I soaked a folded up sheet of kitchen roll in vinegar, microwaved it for a minute, put it in a large Tupperware container, and poured a load of salt onto it. Then I stood the hands (on cocktail sticks, stuck in blu-tack) on top of the steaming vinegar and salt laden folded sheet. I put the lid on and left it for about a day and a half.
    Wow. Thats insanely clever. Great execution!

    Leave a comment:


  • Netesac
    replied
    n0bby Great job! Looks stellar.

    P.S. Can you provide some suggestions on how to chamfer the edges? I'm looking to do the same, but have been nervous about it. Pictures would help. Thanks.

    Leave a comment:


  • p0pperini
    replied
    Originally posted by Holla09 View Post
    I think I might throw an old dial in with the hands to see what the vinegar does to that too.
    That'll be really very interesting to see... Please post some pics!

    Leave a comment:


  • Holla09
    replied
    That's awesome, thank you n0bby. I'm going to try that this week once my watch gets in. I think I might throw an old dial in with the hands to see what the vinegar does to that too.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X