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ZZF New 116610LN Submariner 3135 V2 Releasing!

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For beginner, 2836 is a good option
-cheaper maintenance
-easier for watchsmith to work with
-better accuracy in timing and durability

3135 is for people who's looking to swap parts, and if they are bothered with the crown winding direction.

And case shape accuracy. A 2836 guarantees the stem height is wrong, which means the crown guard shape is wrong. No modding that away. Many people don't care, but everyone has their little hangups. To me, the 2836 crown guard shape is an easy tell sitting across the table from someone.
 

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Welcome to the forums!

As a general rule you want to stay away from SA movements. The zzf v2 uses a VR3135 which is a pretty nice movement - read this write up..

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...ics-for-v2-sub

Also for added knowledge is this..

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...n-gen-sa-sh-vr

I have a zzf v2 and must say the movement is quite smooth - still rough when compared to a Gen but still very impressive from a bang for buck perspective..very nice watch.

Cheers

Hi Astro55, Thanks for this knowledge, so I’m assuming this “VR3135” is the same as “SH3135” movement that is stated in all the TD’s website?
 
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Hi Astro55, Thanks for this knowledge, so I’m assuming this “VR3135” is the same as “SH3135” movement that is stated in all the TD’s website?

Do some reading pal. The VR3135 is not the same movement as the SH3135. The are clones of the same Rolex movement of course but produced separately!


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Hi Astro55, Thanks for this knowledge, so I’m assuming this “VR3135” is the same as “SH3135” movement that is stated in all the TD’s website?

No they are not the same.

pompompurin did a nice summary of this a while back...see below.

  • A2836-2 = Asian clone of the ETA 2836-2
  • A3135 = Asian clone of the ETA 2836-2 that is made to look like a 3135.. except it doesn't fool anyone and I heard various fail stories to do with it. Not worth the extra money
  • SA3135 = Super Asian 3135 clone that is found in Noob and BP Rolex reps. The current version is made more reliable than the older ones from what I have read. But these movements have no spare parts (even the stem has proprietary design) - except for maybe the reversing wheel as I have seen domi fit gen ones into a SA3135 with some mods. Out-of-the-box reliability seems to be much higher than SH3135
  • SH3135 = Shanghai 3135 clone (found in JF reps, 90% of gen and aftermarket Rolex 3135 parts can be interchanged into this movement. But out-of-the-box reliability varies so you may expect servicing)

Conclusion:
- If you want a movement that is reliable in the long term with less maintenance hassle... then get a watch with A2836
- If you want a movement that is reliable in the long term with GENUINE FUNCTIONALITY (i.e. SA3135 and SH3135), then I think SA3135 marginally wins over the SH3135 because it seems like the SA3135 is more reliable out-of-the-box. But bear in mind spare parts for this movement is impossible to find

Bear in mind we are talking about reps but if the watch is a keeper then go the VR3135.
 

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Mentioned before, vr3135 is a movement that sells good. There are some available in the sales thread. Just service it and replace with some gen parts, it will last.
 

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If anyone has a nice ZZF v2 VR3135 Sub Date for sale in Europe, hit me up, open a sales thread and it will be sold in a minute :)

The more I look at the pics the more I want one haha
 

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I am pretty excited to obtain a ZZF V2 Sub. It looks so similar to the gen. I am super impressed...
 

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Bezel scallop comparison with Top ARF, middle ZZF and bottom gen 116613ln

follow by ZZF vs Gen
and then ARF vs Gen
 
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