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Noob Daytona delight!
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Yes, the "ideal" combination you describe is what I have - except I didn't buy into the CF bezel hype, so my Noob has the ARF bezel fitted. However, I'm awaiting the arrival of a Franken 116500 with gen black dial which has the CF bezel (plus a Prof crystal), and I've also picked up a V3 Noob bezel, so it'll be interesting to see how they all compare. The Noob bezel looks better to my eye than the ARF (but I won't be swapping it over, as the I cracked the last Cerachrome bezel I attempted to fit!).
What I noticed when putting the two watches side by side was how difference the colour white was on the two dials, and how that difference is easy to see at arm's length - whereas the crispness of print and the shine of the markers is not (to me). Hence my interest in whether one was closer to gen than the other. So your comment re. gen dial variations is also an interesting point, thanks.
As to your comment, "This topic has already been discussed on a separate thread on this forum", well sure - subjects get discussed multiple times, and it all adds to the general level of knowledge for the members.
@dc2_bb6_cu2 thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts, as a gen owner.
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Did you manage to find a gen 116500 dial?? If so wow congrats. Or is it a 116520 dial?
It's the 116520. https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...-gen-black-dial-cf-bezel-and-prof-2ar-crystal
It's a gen black Daytona dial - that'll do for me!
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It's the 116520. https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...-gen-black-dial-cf-bezel-and-prof-2ar-crystal
It's a gen black Daytona dial - that'll do for me!
Ahah, that's ok, there plenty of gen 116520 with aftermarket bezels anyway
That was my thinking exactly... plus I have a preference for the older Rolies anyway, so dropping back to the previous gen dial is no bad thing.Ahah, that's ok, there plenty of gen 116520 with aftermarket bezels anyway
Color- I really can’t spot a difference between this Noob 2.2 and gen. I’m sure gen has some variants over the years. My gen is a late 2018 model.
Crystal height. Gen is on top. We’re talking about fractions of a millimeter here, if you don’t know how to do it or opt to leave it as is, you cannot tell when wearing it or at arms length away.
Gen on top, V2.2 black middle, V2.2 white on bottom
Finally, the ensemble. Gen in the middle, other two are July-August 2019 Noob 2.2’s
Crystal height. Gen is on top. We’re talking about fractions of a millimeter here, if you don’t know how to do it or opt to leave it as is, you cannot tell when wearing it or at arms length away.
Gen on top, V2.2 black middle, V2.2 white on bottom
Finally, the ensemble. Gen in the middle, other two are July-August 2019 Noob 2.2’s
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It's the 116520. https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...-gen-black-dial-cf-bezel-and-prof-2ar-crystal
It's a gen black Daytona dial - that'll do for me!
Mr. nobby congrats that gen dial is a grail. One thing to note is the sub dials on the 520 are noticeably shinier than the 500 dials. The 520 dials meant for the steel bezel are almost like a mirror. On the 500 they are toned down with much less sheen. So I imagine in person the 520 dial may seem “blingy” with the ceramic bezel. But the steel bezel would be perfection
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That’s interesting information m5smg2, thanks! I already have the ARF 520, and its shiny chrono dials are what attracted me, they contrast beautifully with the black dial. It’s going to be interesting getting the new watch side-by-side with it to see whether the SS or ceramic bezel looks better. I’ll post some pics once it arrives to compare that, and the gen/ARF dials.Mr. nobby congrats that gen dial is a grail. One thing to note is the sub dials on the 520 are noticeably shinier than the 500 dials. The 520 dials meant for the steel bezel are almost like a mirror. On the 500 they are toned down with much less sheen. So I imagine in person the 520 dial may seem “blingy” with the ceramic bezel. But the steel bezel would be perfection
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Color- I really can’t spot a difference between this Noob 2.2 and gen. I’m sure gen has some variants over the years. My gen is a late 2018 model.
Crystal height. Gen is on top. We’re talking about fractions of a millimeter here, if you don’t know how to do it or opt to leave it as is, you cannot tell when wearing it or at arms length away.
Gen on top, V2.2 black middle, V2.2 white on bottom
Finally, the ensemble. Gen in the middle, other two are July-August 2019 Noob 2.2’s
Noob crystal always has a border that is too white. Arf crystal seems to be more gen like with a less white edge.
Thank you very much for your post;-)
Finally, the ensemble. Gen in the middle, other two are July-August 2019 Noob 2.2’s
Hi there, is your 116500 black dial Ootb? Your sub dials are not as shiny as most shown in this forum. ????
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Yes it’s OOTB. It depends on the angle, straight on they appear matte, while at some angles you can really get some shine.
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I would love to get the Noob model but $688 feels like a whopper pricetag for a rep, I'm well aware people spend a bunch more to franken-spec their reps but how good is it OOTB? At this point I'm considering the ARF
Its good but I was not happy with the bezel. Its good but with some lights it looked fadded and lifeless. CF Bezel is worth it. And if you want to use it long it would be good to service it. Something broke and my watchsmith fixed it and serviced the movement. From +20 /day and 11h (!) power reserve to +2/day and 60+h power reeserve
IMO (not that it means much!) the ARF is the better looking watch OOB. That’s why we buy both and transplant the best ARF bits into the Noob case. If you don’t care that the ARF doesn’t have a 100% working chrono function (although the big second hand will go round, if you want it to), then you can save money and get a great looking watch by buying the ARF.
Here’s my Noob and ARF side by side, before they got merged (ARF on the right)...
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IMO (not that it means much!) the ARF is the better looking watch OOB. That’s why we buy both and transplant the best ARF bits into the Noob case. If you don’t care that the ARF doesn’t have a 100% working chrono function (although the big second hand will go round, if you want it to), then you can save money and get a great looking watch by buying the ARF.
Here’s my Noob and ARF side by side, before they got merged (ARF on the right)...
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What pieces of ARF did you transplant into the Noob?
Do you think ARF dial have counters too thin?
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Marco1937 The pieces that have gone into the Noob are the dial, crystal, bezel and bracelet (although personally I still see/feel minimal difference between the bracelets!). Note that the Noob was a 2.2 not a 3, so it had the bezel with notorious "serif font" UNITS PER HOUR which made hardcore Daytona men weep. The new v3 Noob bezel has fixed that (and is arguably better than the ARF) so that's not an issue now. The crystal gasket was shaved so the crystal sits closer to gen height.
I'm not sure which counters you're referring to, so you'll have to be more specific. But anyway, I changed the dials for the difference in the main white paint colour - looking at the watches, side by side on my wrist, the ARF looked more "classy" because it's got a very subtle ivory tint, whereas the Noob is really stark WHITE white and just lacks the overall look of quality. The Daytona text also looks quite pink on the very white Noob dial. On the ARF it looks a bit darker, and again - more classy.
I'm not sure which counters you're referring to, so you'll have to be more specific. But anyway, I changed the dials for the difference in the main white paint colour - looking at the watches, side by side on my wrist, the ARF looked more "classy" because it's got a very subtle ivory tint, whereas the Noob is really stark WHITE white and just lacks the overall look of quality. The Daytona text also looks quite pink on the very white Noob dial. On the ARF it looks a bit darker, and again - more classy.