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Daytona 116519 Noob or Arf Version?

ssouthall6

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I have done this. This is a Noob V2 116500 with genuine 116519LN dial and CF bezel fitted:

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Trust me, it's better. I have the noob v3, three ARF bezels and CF.

CF is the closest to gen, the depth is an optical illusion. Alongside gen it looks much closer. Noob v3 and ARF are both perfectly acceptable though.


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I know, I installed the CF bezel into a noob 116500 with 151619LN gen dial and the bezel is miles better than my ARF 116500.
 
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Hello guys, I’m going to order a 116519LN noob but there is a v1 and v2 version as I can see from intime and puretime. What should I look at in QC to establish what version did TD take?
 
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I know, I installed the CF bezel into a noob 116500 with 151619LN gen dial and the bezel is miles better than my ARF 116500.

Yeah I replied to an old comment sorry mate. Your watch is beautiful


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Hello guys, I’m going to order a 116519LN noob but there is a v1 and v2 version as I can see from intime and puretime. What should I look at in QC to establish what version did TD take?

I don't think there is officially a v1 or v2 but Noob has silently updated the bezel in the latest batch with grey dial to correct the "R" font. This should be your visual cue.

The 116519 grey is the best Daytona dial that Noob has produced so far. I suggest you get a CF bezel also (it is the best amongst everything out there now).
 
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I don't think there is officially a v1 or v2 but Noob has silently updated the bezel in the latest batch with grey dial to correct the "R" font. This should be your visual cue.

The 116519 grey is the best Daytona dial that Noob has produced so far. I suggest you get a CF bezel also (it is the best amongst everything out there now).

Thanks for your answer. I was reading about bezels and I think I understood that the CF bezel is probably the best one even if engraving is too deep, while this “v2” noob bezel is a good one even if not perfect. Right?
 

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Thanks for your answer. I was reading about bezels and I think I understood that the CF bezel is probably the best one even if engraving is too deep, while this “v2” noob bezel is a good one even if not perfect. Right?

No. Someone claimed the engravings were too deep from a photo. They aren't.

The noob v3 bezel is perfectly acceptable, as is the ARF. CF is 5-10% better


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No. Someone claimed the engravings were too deep from a photo. They aren't.

The noob v3 bezel is perfectly acceptable, as is the ARF. CF is 5-10% better


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Where I can buy a CF bezel? Does it fit or I need some modding?
 

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Thanks for your answer. I was reading about bezels and I think I understood that the CF bezel is probably the best one even if engraving is too deep, while this “v2” noob bezel is a good one even if not perfect. Right?

I was one of the people claiming the engraving seemed deeper than gen on the macro photos that were posted of the CF bezel here for the first time. Since then, I have installed a CF bezel in one of my frankens and I have to say the larger depth was a visual illusion (produced by the "macro" lens of the camera) and that CF bezel is better than Noob V3 or ARF.
 

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Just accepted those two noob 116519. Dial seems to be the “v2” version and bezel is spot on. I don’t see flaws, do you?

I was looking for a gen dial too, but I found only one priced at 3,350$

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Just accepted those two noob 116519. Dial seems to be the “v2” version and bezel is spot on. I don’t see flaws, do you?

I was looking for a gen dial too, but I found only one priced at 3,350$

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Is it the one on chrono24 that is being sold by Stevanella Orologi, or the one sold by @easyfun77 on instagram? If it's not one of them please let me know which is it, I am part of a group of 116519LN dial fans and we are documenting all 116519LN dials being sold. Most of us put the 116519LN dial in 116500 daytonas.
 

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Is it the one on chrono24 that is being sold by Stevanella Orologi, or the one sold by @easyfun77 on instagram? If it's not one of them please let me know which is it, I am part of a group of 116519LN dial fans and we are documenting all 116519LN dials being sold. Most of us put the 116519LN dial in 116500 daytonas.

I’m talking about Stavanella dial. Let me know if you have some gen 116519 gray dial
 

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Hello guys, do you suggest to get a cf bezel instead of the 116519LN noob version? The noob bezel is a good one but I think engravings are a little too thin. Is the cf bezel definitely better?
 

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Hello guys, do you suggest to get a cf bezel instead of the 116519LN noob version? The noob bezel is a good one but I think engravings are a little too thin. Is the cf bezel definitely better?
I have the ARF V2.2, the Noob V3 and the CF, and (just IMO) the CF bezel does look bolder than the other two. Whether that's "better" is purely subjective - personally, I don't really care enough to change all 3 of my Daytonas over to 1 make of bezel because it's "better". They're all just very slightly different...

Whether one is more gen-like remains a mystery to me, as I don't have a gen to compare them with... :) However, given the well-documented frequency with which gen rolex parts show slight differences from one manufactured batch to another, again I'm not really concerned.
 

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I was one of the people claiming the engraving seemed deeper than gen on the macro photos that were posted of the CF bezel here for the first time. Since then, I have installed a CF bezel in one of my frankens and I have to say the larger depth was a
visual illusion (produced by the "macro" lens of the camera) and that CF bezel is better than Noob V3 or ARF.

Any chance of some pics of the CF bezel in several lighting conditions? Indoor outdoor lowlight etc? I am wondering if it stays a but lighter than my noob v3 which often gets very dark in some conditions.
 

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Any chance of some pics of the CF bezel in several lighting conditions? Indoor outdoor lowlight etc? I am wondering if it stays a but lighter than my noob v3 which often gets very dark in some conditions.

Are you talking about the shade of the printing/letters or the shade of ceramic coating?

CF's letters are pretty good at being "light coloured" compared to my ARF, but I now have a V3 noob and I can't decide which one of them is better at having bright letters. CF letters look more silver (they are platinum on the gen so this is closer) and Noob V3 letters look more white which I'm not sure is a step towards looking classy. But the letters pop out a bit more.

On the shade of the ceramic coating, Noob is more reflective at first, but then this effect slowly fades away leaving the bezel looking dull. CF looks like new even now that I have been wearing it almost everyday for 6 months.
 

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Are you talking about the shade of the printing/letters or the shade of ceramic coating?

CF's letters are pretty good at being "light coloured" compared to my ARF, but I now have a V3 noob and I can't decide which one of them is better at having bright letters. CF letters look more silver (they are platinum on the gen so this is closer) and Noob V3 letters look more white which I'm not sure is a step towards looking classy. But the letters pop out a bit more.

On the shade of the ceramic coating, Noob is more reflective at first, but then this effect slowly fades away leaving the bezel looking dull. CF looks like new even now that I have been wearing it almost everyday for 6 months.

Thanks for the elaborate answer! Yes, I meant the color of the numbers, sometimes they are nicely silvery-white on the v3 noob, but often they tend to look very dark, blending in with the rest of the bezel due to lighting or reflections: