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Quick Review of ZZF New 114060 No Date Submariner VS Gen

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Question about crystal. Is it same spec as 116610 just without cyclops of course? Can it be removed cyclops from gen and installed on 114060?

Why would you remove a cyclops form a gen crystal?This might not be a good idea:

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It's easier to sell it and buy a new one (maybe cheaper as well). Or keep the zzf / noob crystal since they are pretty much the same thing. ;)
 
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Why would you remove a cyclops form a gen crystal?This might not be a good idea:

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It's easier to sell it and buy a new one (maybe cheaper as well). Or keep the zzf / noob crystal since they are pretty much the same thing. ;)

Thanks bro
 
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Question about crystal. Is it same spec as 116610 just without cyclops of course? Can it be removed cyclops from gen and installed on 114060?

With very few exceptions, Rolex rep and gen crystals can be swapped around among 40mm sport models.
One should always keep and reuse a rep gasket on a rep when doing this. It would make more sense to me to just get a gen no cyclops crystal than to remove the cyclops from a gen crystal and use it on a rep, if I understand your question correctly.
 

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With very few exceptions, Rolex rep and gen crystals can be swapped around among 40mm sport models.
One should always keep and reuse a rep gasket on a rep when doing this. It would make more sense to me to just get a gen no cyclops crystal than to remove the cyclops from a gen crystal and use it on a rep, if I understand your question correctly.

Yes bro you understood it correctly. The reason I was thinking about removing cyclops is because there is loads of gens on TRF but I didnt see for 114060. I saw for 14060 tho just not sure is it the same. And one more thing, is bezel the same for five and six figure? Steel part im talking about.
And finally, if you go back to DW project thread youll see you said smt important that you didnt tell me, not on purpose of course just it slipped you bro.
Sport and DJ difference and moving numbers towards inside. Anyway, guy was quicker hands down but quality is much below expected as I could notice.
 

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Bezels are not the same between 5 and 6 digit sport model Rolexes. Different sizes, taking different size inserts. Also different method of attachment, different way of generating the click sound, etc.

​​​​​​​A 14060 crystal will not fit a 114060.
 
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A different 5 digit crystal like 16610 or 16710 or 16750 would fit a 114060. And you could remove the cyclops without issue since those models had no AR.
 
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A different 5 digit crystal like 16610 or 16710 or 16750 would fit a 114060. And you could remove the cyclops without issue since those models had no AR.

Does 14060 crystal fits 114060? I found one new
 

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jtimewatch Please can you make it clear about movement? Some say its 2836 decorated and on your website it says super clone 3130. Thanks
 

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jtimewatch Please can you make it clear about movement? Some say its 2836 decorated and on your website it says super clone 3130. Thanks

It's a 2836 with deco plate bro. You can tell by how low the crown sits.

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Also in the movement pics you can see the base ETA movement. Lastly, if it was a "real" clone, the movement name would be SA or SH3130. A3130 means ETA with deco plate. TDs are not clear in advertising this, as clone 3130 sound like you're getting something more. What you are getting is useless extra potential debris to fall into your movement and cause issues. I routinely remove deco plates ASAP, having experienced falling debris firsthand.
 

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It's a 2836 with deco plate bro. You can tell by how low the crown sits.

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Also in the movement pics you can see the base ETA movement. Lastly, if it was a "real" clone, the movement name would be SA or SH3130. A3130 means ETA with deco plate. TDs are not clear in advertising this, as clone 3130 sound like you're getting something more. What you are getting is useless extra potential debris to fall into your movement and cause issues. I routinely remove deco plates ASAP, having experienced falling debris firsthand.

So would dial from this watch fit 3130 or 3135 and if not can it be modded to fit? I really want this watch badly.
Ive stumble upon some source from China offering noob, arf, gmf watches at unbelievable prices. Like noob Daytona $320 :D
 

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The ZZF Sub dial has ETA feet. They would have to be clipped off, stumps grinded/sanded flat then new feet attached in 3130/5 positions or dial dots used (not a fan of dial dots, they get sticky, can slide and make it hard to remove the dial later).

Not to mention we don't know if this dial has the press indentations the 116610 suffers from.
 

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So would dial from this watch fit 3130 or 3135 and if not can it be modded to fit? I really want this watch badly.

And oh BTW my no flaw bro, the bezel tooth scallops on these ZZF models are way too wide and tall, leaving almost no flats. Going to have to lower your standards finally, lol. Shame they botched this easy matching.

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And oh BTW my no flaw bro, the bezel tooth scallops on these ZZF models are way too wide and tall, leaving almost no flats. Going to have to lower your standards finally, lol. Shame they botched this easy matching.

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Can some other bezel be used with CF insert? Noob, arf, vrf?
And how those dial feet look like?