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BP Factory Rolex 16710 GMT Full Review VS Gen

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Ken's got some Submariner case back in stock, I just ordered one. Still waiting on my watch though :thumbup:

Will this case back fit with the stock movement or you will change the movement?
Could a vr 3186 movement fit in the bp case?
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From what I read in this thread, the case back should fit stock movement without any issues.

I'm not so sure about fitting the VR3186 into the BP case... KJ2020 can chime in?
 
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From what I read in this thread, the case back should fit stock movement without any issues.

I'm not so sure about fitting the VR3186 into the BP case... KJ2020 can chime in?

There is a problem with crown height. Case need to be tapped and redrilled in right position.
 
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Will this case back fit with the stock movement or you will change the movement?
Could a vr 3186 movement fit in the bp case?
Thank you


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People have fit a true clone 3185/6 movement in some 5 digit cases (16570/16710). There are often some challenges like a movement holder, stem height, case grooves, dial and hands compatibility, date wheel horizontal alignment with dial window, etc. All challenges can be overcome to a satisfactory extent if a modder has the skill and the will. I have four BP 16710s, all with 2836 ICHS and this suits me fine. Those movements are rock solid and easy to repair, service, or replace. Handstack is of no consequence to me. I haven't seen the need to try fitting a 3185/6 into one since I also have a gen.

I also greatly prefer the quickset date change feature of the 2836 to the hour jumping date change required with a 3185/6. I've always hated that inconvenience on my gen. It's a steep price to pay for CHS, though with some modding you can achieve both.

Mods for the GMT timebomb
 
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People have fit a true clone 3185/6 movement in some 5 digit cases (16570/16710). There are often some challenges like a movement holder, stem height, case grooves, dial and hands compatibility, date wheel horizontal alignment with dial window, etc. All challenges can be overcome to a satisfactory extent if a modder has the skill and the will. I have four BP 16710s, all with 2836 ICHS and this suits me fine. Those movements are rock solid and easy to repair, service, or replace. Handstack is of no consequence to me. I haven't seen the need to try fitting a 3185/6 into one since I also have a gen.

I also greatly prefer the quickset date change feature of the 2836 to the hour jumping date change required with a 3185/6. I've always hated that inconvenience on my gen. It's a steep price to pay for CHS, though with some modding you can achieve both.

Mods for the GMT timebomb

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I just got my watch in today and already I love it. The fit and feel of these smaller 5 digits are amazing.

Some observations of the latest batch from BP

- Crown is wrong - two dots...Where to find the correct replacement?
- Bezel feels very gritty and dare I say cheap?...will this break in with time or does it need oil?
- Clasp does have some sharp edges and feels very stiff - should be easy fix with some sand paper.
- I can confirm the LEC and non stick dial print.
- Case back is still thick.

Overall it's a great watch for the money. Thanks for the great info KJ2020!
 
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I just got my watch in today and already I love it. The fit and feel of these smaller 5 digits are amazing.

Some observations of the latest batch from BP

- Crown is wrong - two dots...Where to find the correct replacement?
- Bezel feels very gritty and dare I say cheap?...will this break in with time or does it need oil?
- Clasp does have some sharp edges and feels very stiff - should be easy fix with some sand paper.
- I can confirm the LEC and non stick dial print.
- Case back is still thick.

Overall it's a great watch for the money. Thanks for the great info KJ2020!

How are the chamfers on the lugs?
 

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How are the chamfers on the lugs?

Gen on right

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I honestly am never bothered by the chamfers though.

They do appear to be more exaggerated on those most recent QC pics though. I ordered one just before the current shit show, so who knows when I'll see QC.
 

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BP with Clark's AR cyclops crystal

Which Clark crystal I would have to order? Bp crystal has not a diameter like gen, right?


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Which Clark crystal I would have to order? Bp crystal has not a diameter like gen, right?


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That's correct. It will take a gen spec crystal by using two gaskets, a mod I've done several times. You need to shave the 29.5mm gasket height down to the height of the stock gasket, then fit one inside the other. You can use some UV glue if needed but it's plenty tight without it.

Note: I've never tested for WP, but I don't get my watches near water.

Gen spec on left, BP on right
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Two gaskets
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You can't see the second gasket after insert is installed.
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