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BP Factory Rolex 16710 GMT Full Review VS Gen

KJ2020

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The stick dial in Genuine is typically called an error dial and has a 3186 and M serial number. I think it would be cool to find a BP stick dial

The only problem is that BP sticks dials also always have the frogfoot coronet.

Incidentally, sticks dials can also be found on some 116710 LN's.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=664628

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japule24

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You should read my review bro, those questions are answered. It's generally accepted that Chinese "Swiss ETAs" are not advisable purchases. There are times when that's the only way a model is offered.

I ended up reaching out to Nembo. He's able to source the watch, great guy.
 

japule24

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Ken's got some Submariner case back in stock, I just ordered one. Still waiting on my watch though :thumbup:
 
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Ken's got some Submariner case back in stock, I just ordered one. Still waiting on my watch though :thumbup:

Hang on,.... Who's Ken??? I'm trying to sort out a thinner case back for my BP. LOL
 

mpt1993

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https://imgur.com/a/N6MPdyX

Ordered a BP 16710 Pepsi from Andrew. Some observations from the QC:
- Chamfers on the lugs are too pronounced. I have yet to find a gen with such curves.
- Wrong crown: two dots under the coronet instead of a solid bar. I believe two dots denotes twin lock crown on white gold models, not SS :atwitsend:.
- DW not centered, more left aligned.
- The "II"'s next to "GMT-MASTER" are no longer sticks in this new batch.
- Let's wait and see if there is LEC, since BP seems to use whatever spare parts they have left to "fraken" these watches. If this one does, then LEC + no lug holes + SEL would somewhat make this period-correct, despite the obnoxiously curvy case :rolleyes:
- I am not sure whether this particular watch is A2836 or DG3804. The photos on trusty time (https://trustytime.io/index.php?main...ducts_id=20381) shows an ETA movement, but I would not trust 100%. Anyway, either one is fine by me.

I already accepted the QC, as at the end of the day, I can live with the above. Posting here for your reference. Feel free to correct me if there is any misinformation.
 
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https://imgur.com/a/N6MPdyX

Ordered a BP 16710 Pepsi from Andrew. Some observations from the QC:
- Chamfers on the lugs are too pronounced. I have yet to find a gen with such curves.
- Wrong crown: two dots under the coronet instead of a solid bar. I believe two dots denotes twin lock crown on white gold models, not SS :atwitsend:.
- DW not centered, more left aligned.
- The "II"'s next to "GMT-MASTER" are no longer sticks in this new batch.
- Let's wait and see if there is LEC, since BP seems to use whatever spare parts they have left to "fraken" these watches. If this one does, then LEC + no lug holes + SEL would somewhat make this period-correct, despite the obnoxiously curvy case :rolleyes:
- I am not sure whether this particular watch is A2836 or DG3804. The photos on trusty time (https://trustytime.io/index.php?main...ducts_id=20381) shows an ETA movement, but I would not trust 100%. Anyway, either one is fine by me.

I already accepted the QC, as at the end of the day, I can live with the above. Posting here for your reference. Feel free to correct me if there is any misinformation.


https://imgur.com/gallery/yYMpHFB


Just received my QC.

Same issues as you.

Am I wrong or did BP widen their CGs?


Greets
 

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That case is like a lovechild of a Seamaster and a 6-digit Submariner. Strange.
 

KJ2020

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https://imgur.com/gallery/yYMpHFB


Just received my QC.

Same issues as you.

Am I wrong or did BP widen their CGs?


Greets

Can you post a better pic of the handstack? If the hour hand is on the bottom, it's a DG3804 CHS, a finicky movement that I wouldn't have.

The CGs look bad on that sample, they are not only wider on the top but encroach on the crown in an unattractive way. I hope this isn't the shape of things to come from BP or their run on the only acceptable and affordable 16710 is over.

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KJ2020

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Hi

Movement should be A2836 as ordered with ICHS.
Here's another angle of the case/ CGs.

https://imgur.com/gallery/qt5bIMe

I rejected the QC...

I ordered a thinner caseback from Ken, he has got some of them back in stock now.

What did you reject it for? It may be that the CGs are from a new batch of cases. They are a good bit fatter, which is good as that's more like the gen but they are really asymmetric top-to-bottom now. The tops covering the crown a bit is a real eyesore to me, I've hacked that off on some cases. But at least you have more material to work with now.

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