sub c Gen check

[go000ob]

a friend of mine bought a used sub c a few weeks ago.
i was checking the watch today, and i noticed it has a double outlined engraved rehaut, while the clasp is polished from the inside.
i didn’t open the watch but the hands turn in the correct direction, i know it could be a SA or SH movement.
but from the outside it looks Gen to me
any insight please?

 

[bill33]

Gen

 

[k4jun]

This is old rehaut, new clasp and new dial, which is unlikely to happen in gen. 5VM is a SEL code used by ARF.
Can you post better pics of dial, bezel insert (pearl) and cyclops?

 

[go000ob]

 

[go000ob]

This is old rehaut, new clasp and new dial, which is unlikely to happen in gen. 5VM is a SEL code used by ARF.
Can you post better pics of dial, bezel insert (pearl) and cyclops?

exactly why i got suspicious
new dial, new clasp
but old case
crystal and insert are definitely gen
i’m confused ????????‍

 

[go000ob]

smoke can you help please

 

[Smoke]

a friend of mine bought a used sub c a few weeks ago.
i was checking the watch today, and i noticed it has a double outlined engraved rehaut, while the clasp is polished from the inside.
i didn’t open the watch but the hands turn in the correct direction, i know it could be a SA or SH movement.
but from the outside it looks Gen to me
any insight please?

It's gen but the bracelet is fake.check the movement to see if it's gen calibre

 

[Smoke]

This is old rehaut, new clasp and new dial, which is unlikely to happen in gen. 5VM is a SEL code used by ARF.
Can you post better pics of dial, bezel insert (pearl) and cyclops?

Not new dial

the bracelet is arf 100 percent.but you do see lots of gens with double rehaut and new clasp.because you can get the clasp replaced at rsc .And they supply the new clasp nothing wrong with that.

the clasp I would like to see close up of the engravings font inside the clasp as this may be a gen clasp.the are clasp code is not the same as this.and the crown on the flip lock looks good.but it may be arf clasp aswell was they may have changed the code recently

 

[gianttg]

it just franken

 

[go000ob]

i felt there was something fishy about it.
he said he was impressed by how clean the bracelet and clasp were compared to the case which had some scratches.
guy knows nothing about reps, so he couldn’t have imagined it could be fake or franken at the very least.
i will let him take some closeup shots of the clasp, and go to a watch smith to take a look at the movement.

 

[go000ob]

smoke thanks mate
but i do have one question though
does that dial come with this case by default?
isn’t it a post 2016 dial?

 

[Smoke]

smoke thanks mate
but i do have one question though
does that dial come with this case by default?
isn’t it a post 2016 dial?

This dial comes from 2010 to 2018 but I'm sure this dial can be found on a 2019 also
this is not that new long ft dial from 2018/19 that can only be found on the new single line rehaut case.but it looks similar I guess to the laymen