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BP Factory: New Batman and Pepsi w/CHS - Thoughts?

fischyyyy

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Better to wait for the ARF CHS, you have to be brave to spend this much ion a time bomb which is impossible to repair.If you had to get one now I would rather have the Noob than the BP.
 
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CarlosFFF

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I can't be the only one who thinks we should wait until we get our hands on one of these to make a judgement on it.

It's possible it is as reliable as the SH3135 which has been pretty popular and, anecdotally, runs quite well in both my watches that have it. Maybe it's as reliable as noob's SA4130, which powers countless Daytonas on this forum.

I am mostly curious if this is a true 3186 clone or if this is an ETA clone with CHS similar to Noob's. Can anyone comment? It looks like a proper 3186 clone.
 

kennygconspiracy

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I can't be the only one who thinks we should wait until we get our hands on one of these to make a judgement on it.

It's possible it is as reliable as the SH3135 which has been pretty popular and, anecdotally, runs quite well in both my watches that have it. Maybe it's as reliable as noob's SA4130, which powers countless Daytonas on this forum.

I am mostly curious if this is a true 3186 clone or if this is an ETA clone with CHS similar to Noob's. Can anyone comment? It looks like a proper 3186 clone.

That seems a very wise line of thinking down the road. I guess like a new vehicle, it's better to wait until they have been tested a few weeks by professionals before buying. I'd say until someone gets their hands on one of these and manages to take one for the team and do a comprehensive test and review, we'll have to wait.
 
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KJ2020

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If if was a new revolutionary SA3186 we would have heard about before now. A member here already has both in hand. Looks like the same ETA 2824 clone with deco plate.
 

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Also if it was a new movement the price would be noticeably higher. Cloning a 3186 correctly would be an amazing feat ranking right up there with the SA4130. It would command premium pricing.
 
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CarlosFFF

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If if was a new revolutionary SA3186 we would have heard about before now. A member here already has both in hand. Looks like the same ETA 2824 clone with deco plate.

Of course I would be happy if it were a new 3186 but with the rumors of a proper clone swirling recently I would very much like for this to be confirmed. In any case, I e-mailed Trusty and asked, if only to confirm it's the same thing.
 

kennygconspiracy

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Righto, but price doesn't correlate with quality equally. Sometimes factories place a higher premium knowing there will be high demand. With high demand and high supply, it's a perfect storm for high prices because of a revolutionary breakthrough.
 

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I think it's both making as much profit as possible in the opportune moment and possibly driving the market into the higher price range. There are plenty of excellent clones in the 300-400 range but going past 600 (uncommon) seems ordinary now...
 

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If a rep is ever made with an actual clone of a 3186, it will list initially in the $600 range at least (in today's dollars)
 
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CarlosFFF

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I emailed trusty asking:

Hi! is the movement in new BP ROLGMT156B with Asia 3186 a true 3186 clone, or is ETA base? Thanks :)

He responded with:

Yes. It is a true Asia Clone 3186 with CHS movement.
Thanks

It's possible it's the same unstable noob movement and this is a case of bad English, or maybe it's a proper CHS. Still leaning towards no because of the price
 
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KJ2020

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I emailed trusty asking:

Hi! is the movement in new BP ROLGMT156B with Asia 3186 a true 3186 clone, or is ETA base? Thanks :)

He responded with:

Yes. It is a true Asia Clone 3186 with CHS movement.
Thanks

It's possible it's the same unstable noob movement and this is a case of bad English, or maybe it's a proper CHS. Still leaning towards no because of the price

Haha, Trusty's peeps are full of it. They told me the same thing about Noobs DD40s, that it's a clone 3255. NOT! They're 2836s with a deco plate.
 
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shortlegs

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Sorry if this is already discussed elsewhere, but why is there advice to wait for the ARF CHS? Is it going to be any better than the 2824 based CHS that we currently have, or are they coming up with a true clone 3186 movement?
 
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