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Review of ZZF New Sub 116610 LN and Comparison vs. Gen, ARF, Noob and Nail (PART I)

Jbrahm

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jtimewatch Thank you for all your detailed comparisons! They are sooo useful. You mentioned that the bezel paint is platinum plated. Is there some way to do some reliability testing? I just want to see how it holds up. Whether they fade or flake. I already have the Clean Factory bezel V1. I rubbed it a little bit with some water. No fading so far. My ARF flaked after just 2 months. I would bet there is a test for reliability since you have all those bezels already. All the close up shots are great to see how good these are visually but you really can't see how refined the insert painting or cut is no matter how close you look at it. Reliability is really the most important detail now because to the naked eye, they look almost the same.
 
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dman9555

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Wow incredibly comprehensive, thanks. personally I like the noob.
 

up2wind

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My favorite is still the ARF 2824. Best rep out of the box and together with a Gen Datewheel and Crystal it looks amazing. It's become my daily driver that I wear with a suit and with a t shirt as well. Modded by interaktiv

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Is your gen datewheel model same for 3135 movement? Where you get it?
 

roro6263

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Hi all,

I just discovered this post. Oh my God, my eyes are bleeding !:spike:
That's great. There is a big competition now.
Personally and until now, regarding the Sub, I prefer ARF in the case of OOTB.
To be continued.
 

vkhaa

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jtimewatch this is a great post. Can you please comment on the depth of the black colour on each insert? are they all consistent?
I never seen post comparing the depth of black. My ARF insert looks grey-ish from some angle and wonder if ZZF is better in this aspect?

Thank you
 

Alibaba89

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Any news about the sub? No other dealer still has it, and still shows pre order on j time?
 

freediver

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there has been turmoil in China lately

Police looks like raiding, i suppose could affect all makers
 

Mike r

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Excellent review!

top 2 in my opinion

ZZF AND NOOB
 

watchpit

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I am very impressed by the pictorial review of a lot of angles and details. Espacially the date von picutures are great, showing all numbers not only the good looking ones. Thanks a lot!
 

Tigerdragon

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ZZF must improve the dial it's not plain it has strange waves in it.
 

WatchitBoris

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Wow really detailed comparison. It baffels me how nitpicky people get over details that can't even be seen with a naked eye. I have a Noob no date V8 and held a genuine once. The main difference is in bezel and clasp action. Looks are basicaly identical. Sure, If I had them side by side I would maybe see some difference but why is this so important to people? I'm perfectly happy with the noob the way it is. Anyways, rant over. Hahah
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Fulcanelli

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What version of the noob did you use in the comparison? I was under the impression the noob v9 was hands down the best rep of this model.