I just got my new JF 16610 LV and compared it to my TC LN and it seems to me at least that the JF version has a thicker date magnifier campared to the TC version making the numbers look bigger on the JF. Not sure anyone else has noticed this. Over all the finish is really good although the thread on the tube is shorter than my tc and the crown sits closer to the case. Date flipped bang on 12 so im happy about that.