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Advice for 16613 bracelet and clasp

efthimis

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I am looking to get a bracelet and clasp for a Sub 16613LB no drilled holes model, what my best option would be?? Thanks everyone


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p.schwabe.2

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Wso in ebay (wholesaleoutlet) has one in 14 karat plated i think for round about 200$,there are nice i think...

A wm9 braclete are to rare ,nobody skld them and a gen one is very expensive!
But i heard mmm (I don't now where it is have nice bicolor braclets)....

I buy last year a nice one (but for lug holes) from bill33 i think....

Or write a TD for a 116613 braclete (BP gold wrapped like is in your budget) and change the clasp or not.... Or ask TD's for the BP 16613 braclete only...
You have many options....it is to many to read in this fucking great forum about nice braclets and builds,ideas from another member or modder...

I think you must buy two braclets for the best result or waiting to a member who sell this wm9 braclete


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p.schwabe.2

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It's a bad picture light but my braclete looks same like my gen gold crown! The only think there are shit are the ugly cheap wso bezel that are not really gold color and the teeth are not deep.... But in a few days i become a TC Pa2 bezel and a very helpful member ,help me to gold plated this thinh and a retaining Ring and my 16613 comes to another level! The wso in real Gold (coat 450$ ) for that price i look to a gen gold bezel with a little bit of luck


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efthimis

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It's a bad picture light but my braclete looks same like my gen gold crown! The only think there are shit are the ugly cheap wso bezel that are not really gold color and the teeth are not deep.... But in a few days i become a TC Pa2 bezel and a very helpful member ,help me to gold plated this thinh and a retaining Ring and my 16613 comes to another level! The wso in real Gold (coat 450$ ) for that price i look to a gen gold bezel with a little bit of luck


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Thank you for being so helpful!! I shall look into the details as you provided, I have talked to my AD and can get a BP bracelet with clasp at 100$, clasp itself is at $45. I could spend more, the 16613 I am getting comes with a 6-digit bracelet from JF, it has gen insert, dial, hands, DW, good plated crown and bezel.. modded from JDepp

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pompompurin

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My observations after trying to build a franken 16613
- WSO 14k gold wrapped bracelet = no gold plating on the sides of the middle links. The middle links aren't hollow either like gen (EDITED AS OF 2019: NOT TOO SURE.. THOSE WSO PICS ON EBAY LOOKS DECEIVING WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER MEMBER'S PICS)
- BP 16613 bracelet = no gold plating on the sides of the middle links and the SEL (instant tell for me because of the lack of plating on the sides of the SEL)
- WM9 16613 bracelet = perfect choice but rare
- MBW 16613 bracelet = if i recall correctly, there isn't plating on the side of the middle links. the clasp's coronet isn't pretty either
- Startime 18k two-tone bracelet = the alternative and accessible choice. But it's expensive

In my opinion, 2 realistic options that i faced:
1. source for a better and newer 116613 bracelet that has thick gold plating (including on the sides of the middle links)
2. Buy a gen Rolex 62523h jubilee two-tone bracelet since a second hand one (14k version from a pre-1985 16013 datejust) isn't much more expensive than a rep gold wrapped 116613 bracelet (which has questionable gold quantity)
 
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Timewellspent

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Which bracelet did you end up going with OP? The 116613 looks nice the sel fit is pretty good, but I know JF bracelet has metal sides on sels & midlinks which is a dead give away for me, but looks pretty good gold comparison 18k, was looking into WSO 18k complete bracelet pretty pricey but from pics I’ve seen look amazing and is real 18k and weight is almost identical to gen wit it feels/weight , which is almost impossible to get with rep.
 

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I too am curious. I’m interested in doing a franken 16613 build but with TC out of the game idk where to get a good case.
 
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efthimis

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Which bracelet did you end up going with OP? The 116613 looks nice the sel fit is pretty good, but I know JF bracelet has metal sides on sels & midlinks which is a dead give away for me, but looks pretty good gold comparison 18k, was looking into WSO 18k complete bracelet pretty pricey but from pics I’ve seen look amazing and is real 18k and weight is almost identical to gen wit it feels/weight , which is almost impossible to get with rep.

I left the clasp from JF 16610 and the bracelet from the JF 116613, you cannot really see the bare SEL sides and for the clasp I got a BP 16613 one but I don't use it all as I find the all metal 16610 clasp easier to use for every day (no PCL no scratches)... and I got some more gen watches in the meantime so I didn't really bother to be honest...
 

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I too am curious. I’m interested in doing a franken 16613 build but with TC out of the game idk where to get a good case.

For case use a jf 16610 with sh3135 base for a Franken if you can source it, would be easier to source and cheaper than TC
 

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I left the clasp from JF 16610 and the bracelet from the JF 116613, you cannot really see the bare SEL sides and for the clasp I got a BP 16613 one but I don't use it all as I find the all metal 16610 clasp easier to use for every day (no PCL no scratches)... and I got some more gen watches in the meantime so I didn't really bother to be honest...

Looks good, I wouldn’t change it either if I were you, good Franken you got there
 

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1. buy a bp 16613 with 2824-2 movement
2. take the SEL two-tone bracelet off
3. Dismantle the bracelet and plate sides of the mid-links and SEL
4. Reassemble the bracelet
5. Enjoy
 
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Any idea, if a BP bracelet would fit a Wm9 case? Has drilled lugs..

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Okay I just saw Pompompurins previous build. So a BP bracelet indeed fits a wm9 case. Pls correct me if I'm wrong!

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Timewellspent

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1. buy a bp 16613 with 2824-2 movement
2. take the SEL two-tone bracelet off
3. Dismantle the bracelet and plate sides of the mid-links and SEL
4. Reassemble the bracelet
5. Enjoy

Your talking about the bp being a good rep after doing this or just the bracelet? I don’t know if the feel would give me the satisfaction with the bp bracelet alone. Other bps I’ve had feel cheap
 

pompompurin

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Your talking about the bp being a good rep after doing this or just the bracelet? I don’t know if the feel would give me the satisfaction with the bp bracelet alone. Other bps I’ve had feel cheap

I am talking about just the bp bracelet.
I guess the bp bracelet will fit jf case too.
If you want to build a sh3135 16613 superluminova, then use a jf 16610 case with bp 16613 bracelet

You don't have other accessible options for a SEL 16613 bracelet - only BP is available. Also, the quality is nearly the same as my gen rolex bracelet. The thing with hollow middle link era rolex bracelet is, don't expect a solid feeling from gen or rep rolex bracelet. The bp diver extension works 10000000x better than JF. Not to mention, the bp clasp is less sharper than the jf clasp. However, the bp oyster link's feels a bit sharp (but it is not serious and It won't cut your wrist)
 
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Timewellspent

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I am talking about just the bp bracelet.
I guess the bp bracelet will fit jf case too.
If you want to build a sh3135 16613 superluminova, then use a jf 16610 case with bp 16613 bracelet

You don't have other accessible options for a SEL 16613 bracelet - only BP is available. Also, the quality is nearly the same as my gen rolex bracelet. The thing with hollow middle link era rolex bracelet is, don't expect a solid feeling from gen or rep rolex bracelet. The bp diver extension works 10000000x better than JF. Not to mention, the bp clasp is less sharper than the jf clasp. However, the bp oyster link's feels a bit sharp (but it is not serious and It won't cut your wrist)

So jf is not a option? Efthimis has a 16613 with jf 116613 bracelet looks pretty good just don’t know the quality of it,

Have you ever had your hands on a wso 18k real bracelet saw some member use it, looks amazing and it’s real 18k gold