First rep, need guidance. CF Ultimate 114060 or CF 124060LN?

[Dokraven]

Hi all. I need help in deciding my first rep. The Jtime CF no date ultimate or the CF 124060LN. It’s a $100 difference, and price difference aside, which is the better buy? Primarily interested in just out of the box reliability and long term serviceability. So focusing on the movements to break the tie, the VR3230 or the VS3130.

As I understand, I can swap gen parts into the VS3130 but not the VR3230?

Also, VS3130 is better finished and accurate but VR3230 is proven and reliable?

More parts availability for the VS3130?

Both CF cases have loose bezel action out of the box?

Both have the same ARF bracelet quality?

Thanks you for help in advance, have a good day!
-Dave M

 

[Tobel]

I'd take a look at the VSF 114060 if I were you, and check whether they are available

VS3130 clone movement, reliable and the watch is stunning

 

[SS72]

^^^ This. VSF 114060. Out of the box, as close to perfection as you can get, IMO.

 

[Cadows]

Take the ultimate. Word itself says it all. Dandong movement, arf bracelet, rehaut and dial and hands are miles better than VSF.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Cadows true. Had it for short time, really impressive polished and well engraved rehaut. Nothing to complain about VS movement and arf bracelet for sure. Cant go better then that

 

[rockdaytona]

Interested in this to Franken with gen xtal and hands… which one?

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Franken a NoDate produced at this Level with a GEN Xtal is something like still upgrading Pamela Anderssons boobies.

Just not worth it.

 

[muiramas]

Franken a NoDate produced at this Level with a GEN Xtal is something like still upgrading Pamela Anderssons boobies.

Just not worth it.

Are you kidding? She’s a granny these days. Those things are closer to her knees than her face.

 

[enduser]

Are you sure?



Agree neither watch is worth modding - enjoy OOTB

 

[Kalev007]

I must say I think I disagree gen hands, insert and crystal will transform the 114060 at least in my eyes. There's a big difference even with no date with gen crystal vs rep crystal, gen dial ideally as well. I've done this once with CF 114060 and for me it was worth it (along with gen dial, click spring set and autowind module). Now that I have no date gen also the difference is only basically the bracelet quality and the brushing. I still have one stock CF and compared to that you can see easily its rep parts. Though must say you must be hardcore RWI Rolex rep nerd to see all that.

 

[Fisherman1980]

Agree vaf 114060 is out of the box nwbig

 

[Dokraven]

VSF 114060 is out of stock everywhere from TDs I’ve checked. I am going to get the CF ultimate. A bit expensive, sure, but the best option available. Looking forward to it!!!

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Though must say you must be hardcore RWI Rolex rep nerd to see all that.

This.

For 1k i rather go in the strip bar and get a lap dance from pamela herself then buying a xtal for a nodate.
But, everyone got his favours

 

[Fisherman1980]

That's the champagne room style. Love it

 

[15450]

Just comparing a vsf and a cf, I do have to say just feeling in hand the VSF feels more gen like.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Just comparing a vsf and a cf, I do have to say just feeling in hand the VSF feels more gen like.

I also like the way of "feeling".
Technical details are interesting and opinion in RWI is also very nice to know.
But in the end, its all about the feeling

 

[15450]

I also like the way of "feeling".
Technical details are interesting and opinion in RWI is also very nice to know.
But in the end, its all about the feeling

Is going to sound stupid, but just the sound the bracelet makes on a cf sounds less like a gen then a vsf does. And with sound I mean when you just hold it in your hand and make the bracelet jiggle.

 

[SS72]

Take the ultimate. Word itself says it all. Dandong movement, arf bracelet, rehaut and dial and hands are miles better than VSF.

I hadn't seen this rep before now. Must be living under a rock. What a beauty. Had better add one to the collection.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Is going to sound stupid, but just the sound the bracelet makes on a cf sounds less like a gen then a vsf does. And with sound I mean when you just hold it in your hand and make the bracelet jiggle.

It absolutely does not sound stupid.
I completely understand what u say

 

[Nullinger]

So the 114060 is worth the extra money? I mean there a many upgrades mentioned like VS3130, the sapphire, hands, bezel insert etc. but if I just look to the pictures it's hard for me to say if I should buy the ultimate or the "normal" CF 114060.

Does someone probabbly own already one?