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Rolex GMT II V6 GMF 3285 CHS Is Out

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[mention]Fureto [/mention] The VR 3186 is the way to go, just make sure you’re getting the correct movement. As you can see if you scroll up in this thread, the movement has been stamped incorrectly.
 
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Anyone know if these newer GMF GMTs can take a gen crystal? I seem to remember the older ones having date magnification issues if the crystal was set at the correct height. Thanks.
 

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[mention]Fureto [/mention] The VR 3186 is the way to go, just make sure you’re getting the correct movement. As you can see if you scroll up in this thread, the movement has been stamped incorrectly.

many thanks for the reply, what about the possibility to swap spare bezel with different color from the same factory ? as an example swap the BLRO with a BLACK one ?
 

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many thanks for the reply, what about the possibility to swap spare bezel with different color from the same factory ? as an example swap the BLRO with a BLACK one ?

Take a pic of your movement, as mentioned GMF doesn't always deliver the VR movement. Your issue sounds more like performance from an SA3285.

You can swap ceramic inserts around on Rolex GMT and Sub reps and gens, they are all essentially the same diameters. Sometimes thickness varies. If you stick to the same factory you can usually avoid that.

Insert changing for the GMTs is the same as for Subs

6-digit Sub crystal and bezel swap
 
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Anyone know if these newer GMF GMTs can take a gen crystal? I seem to remember the older ones having date magnification issues if the crystal was set at the correct height. Thanks.

Looking at the side view of the new GMFs it appears that the rep crystal sitting height is much lower (gen-like) than on previous versions. It does not appear that there would be a date mag issue if swapping a gen crystal in. I would have an assortment of gasket heights on hand (2.5, 2.7, 2.85mm) and check which one satisfies both mag and sitting height before pressing. Gaskets can also be easily shaved both in height and in thickness if necessary. I recently had to shave a gen gasket a little in thickness to get it to fit under a rep retaining ring. Gen gaskets are much tougher and more dense and the ring just wasn't going to go on with that much bulk under it.
 
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I think GMF has run out of its new high quality bezels and is trying to pull a fast one by supplying new V5 and V6 watches with old lower quality bezels from 2 years ago yet charging a premium price of US$548

Below is a QC of a V5 126719BLRO that I received just a few days ago. I was hopping mad when I saw this shit. The red on the bezel is WRONG and also the transition defect at 6 o'clock is an obscene eyesore!


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I think GMF has run out of its new high quality bezels and is trying to pull a fast one by supplying new V5 and V6 watches with old lower quality bezels from 2 years ago yet charging a premium price of US$548

Below is a QC of a V5 126719BLRO that I received just a few days ago. I was hopping mad when I saw this shit. The red on the bezel is WRONG and also the transition defect at 6 o'clock is an obscene eyesore!


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Wow, that does look quite different to the posts earlier. Will post my qc once I have it next week. Thanks for sharing.
 

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These are my QC pics of a v5 with vr3186 movt in transport to me.
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I think GMF has run out of its new high quality bezels and is trying to pull a fast one by supplying new V5 and V6 watches with old lower quality bezels from 2 years ago yet charging a premium price of US$548

Below is a QC of a V5 126719BLRO that I received just a few days ago. I was hopping mad when I saw this shit. The red on the bezel is WRONG and also the transition defect at 6 o'clock is an obscene eyesore!


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I just received my QC from Lana @ JTime and have the same problem as you jkrw247 .

I've RL and asked to have the correct V5 / V6 bezel.

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I've also asked for an image of the movement and video of them adjusting time by 24hr's as KJ2020 highlighted with the forward jumping hour hand.

Fingers crossed it can be sorted :rolleyes:
 
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I just received my QC from Lana @ JTime and have the same problem as you jkrw247 .

I've RL and asked to have the correct V5 / V6 bezel.

I've also asked for an image of the movement and video of them adjusting time by 24hr's as KJ2020 highlighted with the forward jumping hour hand.

Fingers crossed it can be sorted :rolleyes:

The bezels installed in the recent GMF Pepsi batches are cheap dog shit not even worth US$50. The correct one should be what MajorWilliams showed on his Reddit post comparing CF with GMF

BTW, to check for a VR GMT movement, you need to make sure that the hands advance clockwise when you turn the crown clockwise.
 

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The bezels installed in the recent GMF Pepsi batches are cheap dog shit not even worth US$50. The correct one should be what MajorWilliams showed on his Reddit post comparing CF with GMF

BTW, to check for a VR GMT movement, you need to make sure that the hands advance clockwise when you turn the crown clockwise.

The SA3285 works like the gen 3285 in both crown positions 2 and 3

Backward crown = Forward movement

The VR3185/6 works like the gen 3185/6 in both crown positions 2 and 3

Forward crown = Forward movement

So seeing the how the hands move with either direction crown rotation in either position 2 or 3 will differentiate between these movements.
 

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I think GMF has run out of its new high quality bezels and is trying to pull a fast one by supplying new V5 and V6 watches with old lower quality bezels from 2 years ago yet charging a premium price of US$548

Below is a QC of a V5 126719BLRO that I received just a few days ago. I was hopping mad when I saw this shit. The red on the bezel is WRONG and also the transition defect at 6 o'clock is an obscene eyesore!


j7jZiF.png

That is some lame shit bro. Time to ditch the GMF Pepsi notion altogether, though maybe this is only happening with the blue dial models. Maybe leftover old stock.
 
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The SA3285 works like the gen 3285 in both crown positions 2 and 3

Backward crown = Forward movement

The VR3185/6 works like the gen 3185/6 in both crown positions 2 and 3

Forward crown = Forward movement

So seeing the how the hands move with either direction crown rotation in either position 2 or 3 will differentiate between these movements.

Thanks for the rehash, this is a very important thing to know.
 

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That is some lame shit bro. Time to ditch the GMF Pepsi notion altogether, though maybe this is only happening with the blue dial models. Maybe leftover old stock.

I think there is some supply shortage so GMF is just falling back on legacy inventories to fulfill new orders.

In that case, they should not be charging US$548 since they are using an inferior bezel insert.

Right now, bezel insert aside, GMF is a compelling buy to me because they seem to be the only ones offering the blue dial GMT with the case and bracelet that have the correct gold stamps.
 
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