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Conversion of caliber 3235 to 3230

madedo

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Hello to all, is it possible to convert an asioan clone movenet 3235 (for example VS 3235) to the caliber 3230 no date. If so, are additional parts required or what needs to be done?
 

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The 3230 is essentially the same movement as the 3235 but is just missing the calendar parts and it has a blank plate where the 3235 has a date seating plate. So you can just put a no date dial onto a 3235 and it will work fine and look the part. Some rep factories do this with ETA clones. Of course there will be an invisible but slightly audible daily date flip and a ghost position 2 on the crown that will either quickset change the date invisibly or do nothing if the calendar parts are removed. The setting lever jumper can be modified or replaced with a 3230 two position one to avoid this ghost crown position.

Not all rep 3235s are the same so accomplishing exactly what you want will vary depending on the base movement spec and availability of rep or gen parts needed. Unless you just put a no date dial on the 3235 and live with the ghost elements.
 

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Hi kj2020,

thank you very much for your quick and detailed answer!
If I understand you right I could modify the setting lever jumper or replaced it with a 3230 two position one to avoid this ghost crown position and create a 1:1 3230 clone movement.
Do you know if the VSF VS3235 movent is the basic for a 1:1clone 3230 movement when replacing it with a two position setting jumper.

My idea is to build a 126040 no date from a VSF 126610 by modyfying the movement to a 1:1 3230 (if possible), dial and xtal.
 

madedo

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Hi kj2020,

thank you very much for your quick and detailed answer!
If I understand you right I could modify the setting lever jumper or replaced it with a 3230 two position one to avoid this ghost crown position and create a 1:1 3230 clone movement.
Do you know if the VSF VS3235 movent is the basic for a 1:1clone 3230 movement when replacing it with a two position setting jumper.

My idea is to build a 126040 no date from a VSF 126610 by modyfying the movement to a 1:1 3230 (if possible), dial and xtal.
 

madedo

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@derjenigewelcher: yes that would work, but I wanted to avoid the stem date position of the VS3235 movement and have the movement converted to a 1:1 clone of the 3230 with no date stem position if possible.
But I didn't know if it works or how difficult it would be.
But as far as KJ2020 described it it would be possible to covert it.
 

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madedo You just need to replace the DATE setting lever jumper with the NO-DATE version

The part number is 230.

You can search for 3135-230 and 3130-230 to see how it looks like

But since you want to create a 3230, I haven't come across any 323x related parts so I don't know if they are the same as the 313x ones
 

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This seems like an easy enough mod by changing the setting lever spring and removing the date disc. It won’t be a true 3230 clone on the inside but on the outside it should be fine (actual 3230 has a different mainplate).

The big question is where are you going to get a 124060 dial? I’ve been looking for one for months without success. Never seen a gen for sale and there are no reps that will fit clone 12xxxx movements which have pressure fit dials with no dial feet.