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The VSF Submariners Thread

2fast4lust

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I would say that the rep factories themselves do not or might not be making their own parts at all but source them out to legit manufacturing plants.

ARF daytona and Clean Daytona have the same bracelet.

clean does not use the same bracelet as ARF when it comes to subs.

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I would say that the rep factories themselves do not or might not be making their own parts at all but source them out to legit manufacturing plants.

ARF daytona and Clean Daytona have the same bracelet.

clean does not use the same bracelet as ARF when it comes to subs.

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That doesn't really make sense as to why ARF would make a 126610 bracelet at all then.. If no one else is using it.
 

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I guess to answer your question to the ARF and clean Bracelet is that.

Clean Daytona bracelet = ARF Bracelet.

Clean 12 sub bracelet =\= ARF bracelet. (They don't do 12 subs.)

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Thanks for all the pictures comparing the different clasps:)

The "cat mouth" on the ARF clasp looks to "small " compared to the genuine one.

And then the vsf clasp looks more genuine like than the ARF in that part

But I know that the finish/ fitting on the ARF is better than the vsf. The clasp on my vsf 1ld clasp was not cloosing so well and used a pair of pliers ( without any grupp inside) And put some paper between the gap to avoid scratches.

bend very little at a time and test the opening/ closing after each bend!

my clasp clooses very tight now, :)
 

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I have the VSF 126610 LN. I swapped to the ARF Clean bracelet. I like it much better. Mostly because of the clasp. No catfish mouth gap at flip lock end and way better glidelock. SELs are better too.


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Any ideas where I can buy it? What's the price like?
 

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We already have laughed at you know who because this catfish issue has been brought up before, only to see the gen pics are the same if not worse. You can WANT a smaller gap just because YOU like the look of it, but don’t say the bracelet is not gen-like because of this “catfish clasp”.
 

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GEN/VSF with 7GJ clasp

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We already have laughed at you know who because this catfish issue has been brought up before, only to see the gen pics are the same if not worse. You can WANT a smaller gap just because YOU like the look of it, but don’t say the bracelet is not gen-like because of this “catfish clasp”.

Am I “you know who”??


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After many hours of thread climbing in RWI (thanks everyone), I just copped two VSF Starbucks with 2R99 and 2R93 serial.

Not sure why the engravings with the movements are different, but it seems to be the VS3235 for both.

Really happy with the purchase as a first time rep buyer. Looking forward to the CF Panda in the mail already.

 
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GEN/VSF with 7GJ clasp

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GEN left, 7GJ right, isn`t it?

Here you can see GMF AOW clasp on the left, VSF 7GJ clasp on the right.
7GJ glidelock looks better, but AOW glidelock looks like the gen, in fact 7GJ looks better than gen. When I operate the glidelock, AOW slide like silk, 7GJ not bad but feels like sand just a bit.

Definitely, AOW is closer to gen than 7GJ, so I put the AOW clasp in my VSF. :D
 
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I guess to answer your question to the ARF and clean Bracelet is that.

Clean Daytona bracelet = ARF Bracelet.

Clean 12 sub bracelet =\= ARF bracelet. (They don't do 12 subs.)

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My guess is it’s the bracelet from the ARF SD43 - it’s .5mm wider than is correct after the taper, otherwise it’s the same afaik.
 

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My guess is it’s the bracelet from the ARF SD43 - it’s .5mm wider than is correct after the taper, otherwise it’s the same afaik.

Ah, that might be possible as well. Then we're not comparing apples to apples but to oranges instead...

​​​​​Anyhow. I personally feel that the VSF glidelock does differ in terms of OOTB smoothness, but you won't use it that often and it does get better over time.

As for the SELs and catfish mouth.... Gens have those as well.
 

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Why is all the VSF datewheels left justified?

EVERY single one I can see is aligned too far left and not centred.
 
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