I've not ever tried that bro but I think Triplock has. The bottom side of the VR is more like a 3235 despite the top side being more like a 3135. The balance and bridge look very similar between the two but there would probably be some hit or miss differences even between different samples. It wouldn't hurt to try if you are really careful handling the balance assemblies.
The VR has a fake deco plate of course and the regulator arms are on the opposite side but that shouldn't matter as long as the interaction between the balance and the pallet fork is OK.
I've not ever tried that bro but I think Triplock has. The bottom side of the VR is more like a 3235 despite the top side being more like a 3135. The balance and bridge look very similar between the two but there would probably be some hit or miss differences even between different samples. It wouldn't hurt to try if you are really careful handling the balance assemblies.
The VR has a fake deco plate of course and the regulator arms are on the opposite side but that shouldn't matter as long as the interaction between the balance and the pallet fork is OK.
Thanks mate. I don't have the VR on hand, but if it was compatible, I was going to order one, as swapping the balance seemed like a good alternative to replacing the entire movement with a VR and then replacing the stem.
It was a good thought, and maybe...
But I can now say definitively it's a no go.
I tried it out since I had the parts. The pallet forks are different as Triplock noted.
But the orientations of the jewel (impulse pin) were the same so I gave it a shot
Initially the balance swung freely but as I tightened the screws it stuck.
So the VR staff was either longer or the bridge sat too low (no spacer)
Neither balance has a functioning height adjustment screw but the VS has a gear on the bottom that acts a spacer.
I tried swapping the VR screw to the bottom and was able to tighten that side with free swinging, and the pallet fork and escape wheel were working.
But when I tightened the other side it stuck again. I think maybe with a spacer on the other side it could be made to work but no telling if good performance could be managed. I stopped short of pursuing further mods since the objective here was to make this an easier swap, not a harder one.
So now we know.
This jewel was loose in the movement. I can only hope it's the balance pivot jewel which accompanied the cap jewel?... And that the cap jewel and spring ended up outside the movement when the spring popped off (it wasn't clipped in on one side when this incident occurred, and when I tried to clip it in, I missed and it went flying somewhere).
If it only costs $100 to repair I would repair it. The problem is if you need parts it will likely be much more expensive because it's extremely difficult to get VSF movement parts and there are very few aftermarket 3235 parts being made (many are under patent for 10+ more years)...which mean you are stuck with going gen for replacement parts, and that can be painful to the wallet!Hi everyone
My VSF Sub is broke. What do you think is it possible to replace VS movement with VR movement? Is it worth it?
TRUSTYTIME told me that the VS movement was out of stock and I should send my Sub in for repair for $100. Should I send them my Sub or order a new VR movement? Thanks a lot for advice!
Hi everyone
My VSF Sub is broke. What do you think is it possible to replace VS movement with VR movement? Is it worth it?
TRUSTYTIME told me that the VS movement was out of stock and I should send my Sub in for repair for $100. Should I send them my Sub or order a new VR movement? Thanks a lot for advice!
@KJ2020
“…what I have read here on the forum a VR3235 is basically a decorated 3135 movement.”
“…would a VS3135 fit in the new CF 126622 with VR3235. and will this be a straight fit without any mods?”
Make sense indeed..VR3235 is only 3135 on the Datewheel side but would not fit a 3135-600 datewheel seating or a datewheel clone/gen.
It would be very difficult to secure the smaller diameter 3135 in a 3235 case. It might dislodge as you work the crown.
Yes they should be interchangeable since both movements use the same dial structure.Thanks for the absolute goldmine of information on this thread surrounding these movements!
Are VS3235 and VR3235 dials easily interchangeable? Specifically asking for a sub if it makes a difference.