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New KVF RM11 - Massa on Trusty

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http://www.trustytime.biz/index.php...=18982&zenid=5ad5f2df007ebd68f7a0f6195b605ed7





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rcom440

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Yeah I’ve noticed those a week ago. carbon pattern looks way better than in older releases. It actually looks fucking GOOD!
 
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rcom440

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...just payed for it but on black strap.
DHL + Toro speed with QC pics I should have it in 2 weeks or hopefully less.
 
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trtr

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...just payed for it but on black strap.
DHL + Toro speed with QC pics I should have it in 2 weeks or hopefully less.

Nice

Did you get the carbon pattern case version or the plain black version
 

rcom440

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Nice

Did you get the carbon pattern case version or the plain black version

Yes. they seem to improved carbon pattern with those rm011 black night. Pattern is more horizontal now.
 

rcom440

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I think the same watch has been out since the 15th on other websites. Looks like a toy...

https://www.ts-station.cn/mobile/goods.php?ProId=24172

not trying to be negative or anything, just pointing it out. I would buy one too if it looked good for that money. Lol

ive been following and checking all available rm reps and this one and KVF white ghost are actually most accurate.
The thing is Richard Mille watches look like toys.
those watches are not for everyone. People have different tastes.
 

TheDonSL

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KVF white ghost is accurate. The carbon cases are not near gen so this is not accurate bud
 

rcom440

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KVF white ghost is accurate. The carbon cases are not near gen so this is not accurate bud

this is most accurate carbon pattern available so you won’t get anything better than that when it comes to the carbon case on a rep. They had semi decent carbon cases on old cheep RM reps but it didn’t actually looked like a carbon in real life- looked good on pics only.

All carbon cases are different on gens, the thing is they look way more complex then new KVF versions but it seems KVF is slowly cuting their carbon corectly - pattern is horizontal now.
You won’t have as complex carbon case as gen RM on a rep without price reaching $1500-$2000. This has been discussed many times on this forum.

white ghost - it pretty much has as many flaws as some older KVF reps. The only thing that this watch has going on is the ceramic case.
 
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rcom440

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Also KVF RM011 brown ceramic is pretty accurate too.
 

TheDonSL

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this is most accurate carbon pattern available so you won’t get anything better than that when it comes to the carbon case on a rep. They had semi decent carbon cases on old cheep RM reps but it didn’t actually looked like a carbon in real life- looked good on pics only.

All carbon cases are different on gens, the thing is they look way more complex then new KVF versions but it seems KVF is slowly cuting their carbon corectly - pattern is horizontal now.
You won’t have as complex carbon case as gen RM on a rep without price reaching $1500-$2000. This has been discussed many times on this forum.

white ghost - it pretty much has as many flaws as some older KVF reps. The only thing that this watch has going on is the ceramic case.

Bro I’m not allowed to post anymore here, but trust me when I tell you they can make the Forged Carbon case as gen and it don’t cost 2k. If you believe that then keep buying KVF.
 

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I would love to pay $2k for an extremely accurate looking NTPT richard mille...
 

rcom440

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I would love to pay $2k for an extremely accurate looking NTPT richard mille...

I think $600-700 is somewhat sweet spot for those RM reps as they are pretty complex and need more attention do details.
Actually, sales of cheaper and less accurate RM reps are much-much higher than stuff that goes for $600-700.
when they make $1500-2000 people will be beaching about flaws even if carbon is semi decent.
It was same story with VRF warped gold subs - gold color was pretty much spot on but people were complaining about other very small details because of the $1000 price.
ive been told they don’t sell that well.
 

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Face it! There will no way have same carbon pattern like gen, why?? Because gen`s carbon layer is only 45 micron per layer, that's why the Patten is so special, unless rep factory will put tone of money for just make the same thickness as gen. I will tell u, so far rep factory don't have this kind of tech to make 45 micron per layer as gen.
 

Miaurt

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Yeap, I agree, it’s all about micron layer thickness. But to use RM-like ntpt they don’t have to produce it by themselves. They just have to buy it from supplyier like RM does btw.
 

rcom440

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Damn, payed a week ago and still not QC. Toro is absolutely the slowest TD I delt with. It will take him another 1 or even 2 weeks just to send the package.