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A Beginner's Handbook : from nothing to modding

mrsullivan

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I have always been into watches, as such I owned quite a few gens and I still do today : Omega SeaMaster PO 600m Chronograph, Tag Heuer Calibre 1, Montblanc Heritage Spirit...
And recently I found out a crazy world called replicas. Some say you never get from a rep what you get in a gen. True, but the opposite applies : you can't get with gens what you get with replicas. What is it ? Attention to details, a predator's eye for flaws and critical knowledge of the specs of each and every model we lay our eyes on. That is the skills you build (at least you try !) once you step in thishobby.

I learned much more about watches from reps in a few months than with years of gens on my wrist. Why is that ? Because somehow we take gen watches for granted, we never point errors out, and if we do, we just send the watch back and wait for a return. It's legit, we pay for this, but in an other hand we know about nothing on how our timekeepers really work, or how to repair them.
Don't get me wrong : I love gen watches but replicas give a chance to dig into the tiny world of gears and springs.

As many of us, I read the forum and the wise posts of the specialists here (and I will never end being thankfull to you guys for spreading that much knowledge !) and I'm very impressed by some modder's work here.
So now I feel like trying to work on my watches myself. From light repairs to modding, maybe even frankening, I'll see where this get me. I bought basic tools and a "test watch" I can experiment on, there we go...

I am a total beginner today, the most I did was switching my straps till now, but I feel to try. I'll post here the different repairs and works I experiment on watches. I don't know if this thread belongs here, but mods can tell me if a move is needed.
Of course the specialists can comment and help if they feel like it.
I do this for fun and knowledge, I'm not looking to be a modder or something, and maybe it will give ideas or help other beginners with specific problems we go through sometimes with our beloved replicas.

Enjoy !!!

Here is what I begin with :

-An amazon basic tool kit with crystal press (39 €)
-Oiler kit 4 pins (12 €) + Moebius Oil 9010 (48€)
-A box of precision screwdriver (17€)
-Case opening rubber ball (3€)
-30x magnification Lens (5€)
-Nitrile gloves
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And best of all, the ginea pig : a working Regmariner NoDate, bought M2M for 80 €. It is equiped with a 2813 movement.
This watch will be my "benchmark". The goal here is to strip it, repair it, even mod it, while keeping it working !
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That's enough for the introduction, I'm on a business trip right now, but plan to start working when I'm back in a few days.

Good evening to all !!
 
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mrsullivan

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Hello, today is my first basic work on the Regmariner : movement removal.

Please pardon my lack of experience here, keep in mind that this is educational for me and maybe some other newbies (noobies?). I'm equiped with basic 1rst price tools, and I'm experiencing watch works by following threads here or on youtube tutos, draining infos here and there. I'll just try to get the best out of them. PLEASE don't flame me for errors or potential nonsenses, I'm here to learn.

There are some other threads such as mine and in my case I chose to document my tries with comments directly on the pictures.
I use Tapatalk, I hope pictures will be fine.

Feel free to comment or help with all this.

Thank you all!!

MOVEMENT REMOVAL



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bro amazing and very easy to follow. I just posted something similar and this post answers a lot of my answers. im getting in the same too. and also with buffing/polishing/brushing . keep it coming im subscribed now :D
 

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mrsullivan You've done a truly amazing job on that Regmariner if "setting time/date seems to work" once it's back together... ;)

But seriously, this is an excellent pictorial guide and the sort of thing newbs like me spent ages hunting for when starting out.

It could do with a tiny bit more detail (maybe an extra photo stage here and there), such as showing how to put your watchmaker's round leather pad on top of the watch once the movement is free, then turning the whole thing over so the case can then be removed leaving the movement sat on the leather pad (You can do this without having to remove the "inside ring" first - which is the movement ring, BTW). And then do the opposite when putting the movement back in - movement on the pad, drop the case over the movement, check the dial alignment, turn the whole thing over and proceed with re-fitting the stem and movement tabs.

I've also found that the stem can almost always be refitted without having to depress the release button - just rotate it gently as you slide it back in and it'll generally fit back without it needing to be a two-handed operation.

Next you can do the same for hand and dial removement/replacement - complete with annotations of the screams of anguish/frustration when getting the hands back on... :D
 

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mrsullivan You've done a truly amazing job on that Regmariner if "setting time/date seems to work" once it's back together... ;)

Eh eh that's the "anguish" part of it : will the watch still work once everything is back in?

Regarding the alignment, I checked it with the holding clamps on but loose, just so the movement does'nt fall, and I just had to push a bit on the left and it was done. I then tighten the screws to finish the work.

Thank you for your words and the technical comments is on point. I took the pics as the situation came out, but I now have a better idea for more focused pictorials in the future ok.

Next session will be about hands removal/replacing. Keep following, I might need help for this.

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Awesome post! I'll be following to see where you get and if I get some proper tools I'll try doing the same. I think it is a great source for noobies as me that don't know a lot about the mechanics of a watch. Having something all together that goes step by step makes it easy and enjoyable to follow.
A few months back I tried to open an old citizen my grandfather gifted me just to see what I could do but messed up????. I hope I will learn something

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Agree with the comments before. Nice!
I also started to work on my watches. Using this forum, videos and a lot of trail and error. Hints like #6 ... "GENTLY push on it to release the stem..." would have save some trouble for me ;)
 
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Do you need to pull the crown out to position three before releasing it? I forgot to do that once and had to have the keyless works realigned .


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Do you need to pull the crown out to position three before releasing it? I forgot to do that once and had to have the keyless works realigned .


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Yes I did.

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Can you explain please?

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Most watches ive seen , the caseback unscrews counterclockwise , to the un knowing , following your directions , they wont get the caseback off , but will tighten it further ..
 

mrsullivan

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Most watches ive seen , the caseback unscrews counterclockwise , to the un knowing , following your directions , they wont get the caseback off , but will tighten it further ..
D*mn, am I mistaking my left from right? I was sure it was a clockwise turn. I'll definitely have to check this when getting back from work tonight ;-)

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