hm11esh
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what he does is removed the second function at 9 and then changes the movement. don't know the exact details but he has the 112 and I have purchase don 3 months ago
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TD selling tactics
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what he does is removed the second function at 9 and then changes the movement. don't know the exact details but he has the 112 and I have purchase don 3 months ago
hm11esh
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Funny thing is that once they were called on it they did not even seem embarrassed, have made a half attempt to fix the situation abd even that they gave not come through on.
On top of that they tried to pretend it was a coincidence that the minute hand was exactly in front of the defect. There is literally a 98.3% chance that is a lie (1-(1/60)).
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hm11esh
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Makes you wonder how they fall under "Trusted" dealer status then.
I have purchased form Fat Panda in the past and his QC is amazing. He spotted a flaw in a watch before even sending me QC pics and went out his way to let me know and get another watch. Now that's what I call setting standards.
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Instead of QC being a thing to do to prevent bad pieces getting through it has distorted to: let's see how we can pretend to do a serious QC and basically fool the client into taking a bad one.
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To be fair, it's true some dealers seem to be really good at finding pieces that are long time out of stock. But my experience with that is that these pieces are usually flawed which leads me to think that they are QC rejected pieces that they couldn't send back to the factory. Josh is very "good" at that (and that's why he's not a TD here anymore and why I tend to stay away). Most TDs tell you that a watch is no longer in stock, then magically he says he can find you one, his QC photos are low-res and with very carefully placed angles, and when you receive it you see a couple of crooked markers, or a strange hue in the dial, or the screws are completely stuck. If a watch is long time out of stock there are no magic tricks, better go for another thing.
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Yes, it is really shameful. I have been dealing with them for almost 3 months and still they have not remedied the situation. I am about to give up on them really pathetic.
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Really not useful for certain dealers who think you don't realize the odds of the hands just "coincidentally" covering a defect in the QC pics..!
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Same thing happened again. Only difference is, that I´m waiting for the refund for 3 weeks now. This should have happened with paypal, but the dealer says he has to wait for funds on his account... Start getting upset now...
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Dont know whats the problem right now. This is a thread about the selling tactics of some TDs and I´m writing about my experience. I have no high demands in the speed of a TD and I know that it sometime takes some time till you get QC-pictures or a tracking Nr and so on - and thats okay. But when I send money to a dealer and the watch is not available I expect that I get my money back. It`s something where you dont have to source a watch or something but just send the money back, that you have already received. It`s something that I just didn´t expect to take this much time.
I don’t think it’s a tactic. As people mentioned above, some TDs are better at sourcing pieces than others. Some factories may have preferred TDs that they would hold pieces for.
Let’s compare somebody like WBK. US Based TD. He keeps a limited stock of items. A while back, I asked him if he had any seamasters in stock. He said no. I told him to let me know when he does. A week later he offered to sell me his personal one bc I’ve bought plenty of stuff from him in the past so we built a relationship as a frequent customer. Now, will he do this for everyone? Probably not.
A TD in China really has no idea what they have “in stock” because they take orders, go to the market or factory and picks out ones you ordered. They could have no idea if what you wanted is in stock or not if they haven’t gotten an order for that piece in a while.
They think “sure, I’ve sold one not too long ago” and says yes. You order it and they’ll come back and say it’s not in stock. If you have a good relationship with that TD, they will try to track it down from other TDs or factories that may have old stock.
It’s really all based on relationships you build with TDs as well as relationships the TDs build with factories or “market”.
Some may actually have it or if they don’t, they will try to find you one. If you’re a good customer with previous orders, they will try to find it for you. Another scenario would be if they got an order for that same watch from 1 regular and 2 they’ve never sold anything to... that will go to the regular.
Asian people like loyalty more than anything. If you’re a frequent customer or (regular), they will do everything they can to help you get what you want.
Before anybody says anything, I am asian so there’s no racial stereotyping going on here. Lol. I have also owned businesses where I would help my regulars however I could to get them what they asked for, even if we no longer sell it.
So basically, build a good relationship with your TD. Luckily, being on the forums does quite a bit of vouching for you more than just a random dude that found their website somehow. Even still, try to buy the next piece or parts from the same TD and LEAVE REVIEWS! They see and read them.
Once they get to know you or at least see your purchase history based on your email address, they will help as much as they can.
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Let’s compare somebody like WBK. US Based TD. He keeps a limited stock of items. A while back, I asked him if he had any seamasters in stock. He said no. I told him to let me know when he does. A week later he offered to sell me his personal one bc I’ve bought plenty of stuff from him in the past so we built a relationship as a frequent customer. Now, will he do this for everyone? Probably not.
A TD in China really has no idea what they have “in stock” because they take orders, go to the market or factory and picks out ones you ordered. They could have no idea if what you wanted is in stock or not if they haven’t gotten an order for that piece in a while.
They think “sure, I’ve sold one not too long ago” and says yes. You order it and they’ll come back and say it’s not in stock. If you have a good relationship with that TD, they will try to track it down from other TDs or factories that may have old stock.
It’s really all based on relationships you build with TDs as well as relationships the TDs build with factories or “market”.
Some may actually have it or if they don’t, they will try to find you one. If you’re a good customer with previous orders, they will try to find it for you. Another scenario would be if they got an order for that same watch from 1 regular and 2 they’ve never sold anything to... that will go to the regular.
Asian people like loyalty more than anything. If you’re a frequent customer or (regular), they will do everything they can to help you get what you want.
Before anybody says anything, I am asian so there’s no racial stereotyping going on here. Lol. I have also owned businesses where I would help my regulars however I could to get them what they asked for, even if we no longer sell it.
So basically, build a good relationship with your TD. Luckily, being on the forums does quite a bit of vouching for you more than just a random dude that found their website somehow. Even still, try to buy the next piece or parts from the same TD and LEAVE REVIEWS! They see and read them.
Once they get to know you or at least see your purchase history based on your email address, they will help as much as they can.
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