So the story goes like this - seller lists a watch - capice decides to buy it. Description and pictures are available for all to review at their own leisure.
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...rking-blancpain-fifty-fathoms-in-uk-for-cheap
Seller provides tracking number. Capice begins his crusade on this by outright accusing the seller of providing a false tracking number - which it turns out was simply waiting for Royal Mail to update. The tracking number was correct, and working and updated without any interaction or intervention from the seller; i.e. capice was wrong, but had already started the 'scammer' talk.
Watch is then received and capice says he didn't receive the strap and that there is a ding on one of the lugs. So, there are two issues here; the ding and the strap.
Let's start with the 'ding'. Well have a look at the pictures on the sales thread. If capice wants to post other pictures here, feel free. Personally, I don't see anything different from the sale thread. Objectively, there could be something there, there could be nothing there. Do bear in mind that this is a used watch, described as good condition, not perfect / as-new.
The strap - who knows. Seller says he posted it, buy claims he didn't receive it. As far as I am concerned, and as I told them both - its six of one, half a dozen of the other.
However, capice immediately began with the attitude of what I eventually described as playground antics of 8yo girls - honestly, I would not expect this of a full grown man, shit slinging calling the seller a liar re the condition of the watch; a scammer for not sending the second strap; and my personal favourite that shows just how playground this got - "you are really a pathetic little boy".
I mean come on, did you expect an attitude like that would beget anything other than similar responses?
PP disputes were threatened from a very early stage. So I started a PM chain with both of them so we could flesh it out - capice wants a €70 refund which in his mind is the difference for the issues. In my mind, as above, this is six of one, half a dozen of the other, so I tell them to split the difference 50:50 and thus a refund of €35 should be made. The seller, offered €50 - in my view this was pretty generous. But because this wasn't sent right away, playground antics continued again.
People have a life outside of the forum. Bloody hell, I have 6 kids - weekends are manic as fook. Anyone with any amount of kids will experience the same. Even if you don't have kids, life happens, we are busy, forum comes second to real world. In addition to this, some people don't always have the spare cash in the account to immediately process a payment, and may need a few days to reorganize funds between accounts etc. The time stamp on the messages (BST as you know I'm UK based) go from 03:08 when the seller offers €50 to 15:09 that capice is commenting that he's not received the refund yet - 12 hours for shits sake! On a Saturday morning no less (remember, the seller is also UK based), with half of that being the time most people would be asleep.
I check in the following afternoon asking for an update, and capice response within 12 minutes to say no funds, can I do a PP dispute - this is a repeat request that has come up several times by this point. Looking back, it is pretty clear to me that the intention was there to do this anyway, regardless of what the mods had to say about this. I told him not to jump to anything, as the seller had not been back on line since making the €50 offer, give him some time.
Playground antics then ensue again between them both, with the name calling etc. At this point the seller says that due to the attitude of capice, he will only process the refund on receipt of an apology or instruction from the mods to do it.
I had to step in again - here is a direct quote from my response to the behaviour of the pair of them -
"Girls, this is worse than playground antics with 8 year olds. Any more of it and I will slap you both with a 30 day no sale".
Seller then says that his previous good will offer of €50 is rescinded due to the attitude of capice and he will only refund the €35 which is 50% of the difference as suggested by me. Again capice threatens a dispute. more back and to between them results in my final word on this being -
"Look guys, as I see it, and as I have said before, it is 50:50 on this. The good old, 'he said, she said' malarkey; six of one, half a dozen of the other.
I suggest, as I have several times, that you both take a little of a loss here and split the difference 50:50. If the difference is €70 then €35 is where it's at. I am not going to enforce a PP dispute over what amounts to €15, It is not worth the hassle for anyone. There is an amicable solution, that involves you both taking a loss. I'm not tolerating more of the shit slinging, name calling, or basically being childish. Thankfully you have both adhered to that so far. Let's keep it that way.
It is what it is. Both cut your losses and move on. If you don't agree with my decision, feel free to consult another mod, but let me tell you, I have discussed this situation with others, and I know that some of them have a lot less patience then me."
Capice then went and cried to the boss about it and when that didn't work he basically said 'fuck you, I'm raising a dispute anyway', although a little less poetically - "I will respect your decision on this but will not accept the 35 euro. I will post what went down with this sale, I will leave this forum and will contact paypal"
Like I said previously in this thread, you have tried to spin a sob story. Throughout all of this, I tried to help you both as amicably as possible, but you couldn't care less about the staff here, and your attitude shows that. You have said in this thread that you have no respect for Dave or I. Personally, I don't want your respect considering how you have behaved.
I think you've created a complete and total loss of any respect that anyone had for you by pushing this further.
Seriously, a PayPal dispute for €15 - you should be ashamed of yourself