Beginner build advice - Tudor Prince Oysterdate

[abethecat]

Hey guys,

I want to build my own Tudor Prince Oysterdate and I'm after some advice.

I've never built a watch before, and as opposed to buying a gen I'd like to source my own parts and give it a go.

Ideally, I want to build something similar to this

Can anybody recommend the best case for this? I can't currently find any gen cases on eBay, the closes I can find is the raffledials one yet its a 2 tone version...
http://rafflesdials.com/tudor-signe...zel-and-19mm-lugs-size-fit-eta-2824-movement/

Any advice will be appreciated

 

[SteveA1973]

You could always get that case and source a different bezel and crown.

 

[abethecat]

Nah

 

[pompompurin]

That looks like an Oysterdate 34mm

Use raffles 34mm case set (comes with everything you need including the movement ring). Then source gen dial + hands + movement tabs and screws + 2824-2 movement

I will provide the links later when I get home. Stay tuned.

 

[abethecat]

Nah

 

[billtr96sn]

I'll follow this one!

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[abethecat]

Is the case back okay for a vintage build?

That looks like an Oysterdate 34mm

Use raffles 34mm case set (comes with everything you need including the movement ring). Then source gen dial + hands + movement tabs and screws + 2824-2 movement

I will provide the links later when I get home. Stay tuned.

 

[pompompurin]

How to build a 34mm tudor oysterdate

----- 1. Pick and buy the case set you want: -----
Both sets already comes with the crystal, bezel, crown, caseback, and movement ring. Both sets are made for 2824-2 movements (NOT FOR 2836-2 MOVEMENTS)

Fluted bezel
http://rafflesdials.com/tudor-signe...zel-and-19mm-lugs-size-fit-eta-2824-movement/

Smooth bezel
http://rafflesdials.com/tudor-signe...zel-and-19mm-lugs-size-fit-eta-2824-movement/

----- 2. Pick and buy a gen tudor dial -----
Buy a 27 mm tudor dial with dial feet position at 12min and 42 min. The chosen gen dial should say something along the lines of "prince" "oyster" "date" and NOT "quartz" "hydronaut", "monarch" (because the latter ones are the dials for a different model).

in order to be model correct. Make sure the gen tudor dial has dial feet positions at 12min and 42 min so that the dial is compatible with 2824-2 movements

When you pick and buy a gen tudor 27mm dial, you can google search "tudor 74000" to see the correct hands/dial combination. For the sake of simplicity, you should buy a gen tudor dial that is model-correct with the use of datejust-style dress hand

----- 3. Buy these dress hands (these hands are shorter than normal rolex datejust 36mm hands so that they are correct for 34mm Tudor) -----

Silver
http://rafflesdials.com/one-set-of-...ova-fit-eta-2836-or-2824-for-mens-34mm-watch/

Gold
http://rafflesdials.com/one-set-of-...ova-fit-eta-2836-or-2824-for-mens-34mm-watch/

----- 4. Buy a 2824-2 movement and its related misc parts -----
MAKE SURE YOUR 2824-2 MOVEMENT COMES WITH 2x movement tabs + 2x movement tab screws + 1x dial spacer + stem (if not, then buy separately from the link below)
Sometimes when you buy a 2824-2 movement, it doesn't come with the above parts so you may need to source them by yourself:

Stem
http://rafflesdials.com/two-pcs-ori...ms-for-eta-2824-2834-2836-automatic-movement/

Dial spacer + 2x movement tabs + 2x movement screws set
http://rafflesdials.com/one-set-of-...s-and-two-tabs-for-mounting-eta-2836-or-2824/

2824-2 movement
Source it externally from somewhere. Asian or Swiss is up to you

----- 5. Pick and buy 19mm bracelet for the case (OPTIONAL)-----
Optional because you can pair the watch with Nato strap or leather strap
http://rafflesdials.com/watch-bracelet/19mm-bracelets/

----- 6. Assemble the watch -----
Here is a good repgeek guide to give you a general idea (it isn't specifically for a Tudor 34mm but you get the idea)
http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?24567-Fitting-Gen-Dial-Hands-amp-Crystal-into-a-UPO

----- 7. Installing a cyclops at the date (OPTIONAL) -----
You can buy a cyclops in ebay and use UV glue to stick it onto the crystal. Normal Rolex 34mm case sapphire crystal won't work with Tudor because the cyclops position on a Tudor is different to a Rolex. Best way is to buy a cyclops and stick it onto the crystal by yourself... but this is optional [I don't have cyclops on my franken]

Also, it is worth noting that older generations of tudor 74000 used acrylic plexiglass crystal. I haven't change my crystal before but it's up to you to decide if you want acrylic crystal.

----- 8. Finished product -----
This is mine and it is built different (I used a stonep case set for 2836-2 movement) and I sourced some proper Tudor 74000 hands + gen Rolex 503 crown

I plan to install a cyclops some time in the near future

 

[pompompurin]

Just seen the raffles case, is the case back okay for a vintage build?

Yeah the caseback is fine - only because you don't have another choice. Plain 34mm caseback (for custom engravings or rolex builds) do not exist as I have emailed them. You will have to use that stock caseback (or, they also supply transparent glass caseback but that is even worse because everyone could see you don't have a Tudor ETA movement)

 

[BabaNJ]

By Coincidence i have these exact raffles parts coming just bought this other day.

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[abethecat]

How to build a 34mm tudor oysterdate

----- 1. Pick and buy the case set you want: -----
Both sets already comes with the crystal, bezel, crown, caseback, and movement ring. Both sets are made for 2824-2 movements (NOT FOR 2836-2 MOVEMENTS)

Fluted bezel
http://rafflesdials.com/tudor-signe...zel-and-19mm-lugs-size-fit-eta-2824-movement/

Smooth bezel
http://rafflesdials.com/tudor-signe...zel-and-19mm-lugs-size-fit-eta-2824-movement/

----- 2. Pick and buy a gen tudor dial -----
Buy a 27 mm tudor dial and it must say "Prince Oysterdate" in order to be model correct. Make sure the gen tudor dial has dial feet positions at 12min and 42 min so that the dial is compatible with 2824-2 movements

When you pick and buy a gen tudor 27mm dial, you can google search "tudor 74000" to see the correct hands/dial combination. For the sake of simplicity, you should buy a gen tudor dial that is model-correct with the use of datejust-style dress hand

----- 3. Buy these dress hands (these hands are shorter than normal rolex datejust 36mm hands so that they are correct for 34mm Tudor) -----

Silver
http://rafflesdials.com/one-set-of-...ova-fit-eta-2836-or-2824-for-mens-34mm-watch/

Gold
http://rafflesdials.com/one-set-of-...ova-fit-eta-2836-or-2824-for-mens-34mm-watch/

----- 4. Buy a 2824-2 movement and its related misc parts -----
MAKE SURE YOUR 2824-2 MOVEMENT COMES WITH 2x movement tabs + 2x movement tab screws + 1x dial spacer + stem (if not, then buy separately from the link below)
Sometimes when you buy a 2824-2 movement, it doesn't come with the above parts so you may need to source them by yourself:

Stem
http://rafflesdials.com/two-pcs-ori...ms-for-eta-2824-2834-2836-automatic-movement/

Dial spacer + 2x movement tabs + 2x movement screws set
http://rafflesdials.com/one-set-of-...s-and-two-tabs-for-mounting-eta-2836-or-2824/

2824-2 movement
Source it externally from somewhere. Asian or Swiss is up to you

----- 5. Pick and buy 19mm bracelet for the case (OPTIONAL)-----
Optional because you can pair the watch with Nato strap or leather strap
http://rafflesdials.com/watch-bracelet/19mm-bracelets/

----- 6. Assemble the watch -----
Here is a good repgeek guide to give you a general idea (it isn't specifically for a Tudor 34mm but you get the idea)
http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?24567-Fitting-Gen-Dial-Hands-amp-Crystal-into-a-UPO

----- 7. Installing a cyclops at the date (OPTIONAL) -----
You can buy a cyclops in ebay and use UV glue to stick it onto the crystal. Normal Rolex 34mm case sapphire crystal won't work with Tudor because the cyclops position on a Tudor is different to a Rolex. Best way is to buy a cyclops and stick it onto the crystal by yourself... but this is optional [I don't have cyclops on my franken]

Also, it is worth noting that older generations of tudor 74000 used acrylic plexiglass crystal. I haven't change my crystal before but it's up to you to decide if you want acrylic crystal.

----- 8. Finished product -----
This is mine and it is built different (I used a stonep case set for 2836-2 movement) and I sourced some proper Tudor 74000 hands + gen Rolex 503 crown

I plan to install a cyclops some time in the near future

Thanks

 

[abethecat]

Also, does anybody know of a gen caseback fits the raffledials case?

 

[pompompurin]

Also, does anybody know of a gen caseback fits the raffledials case?

Nope it won't fit
I have sent my original open caseback to @Stuvetjee and it doesn't fit his gen vintage 34mm Oyster Perpetual. I then ordered that case set's Tudor caseback and it fits my case. Therefore a gen caseback will not fit that case set's case
You are stuck with the stock Tudor caseback, or the transparent open case back

 

[pompompurin]

What a fantastic post! I really appreciate the advice and help

By Coincidence i have these exact raffles parts coming just bought this other day.

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Good luck with the build guys - it should be a straightforward one without the hassle of positioning a datewheel overlay like a typical Rolex build

 

[abethecat]

By Coincidence i have these exact raffles parts coming just bought this other day.

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Where did you get the dial buddy?

 

[abethecat]

Good luck with the build guys - it should be a straightforward one without the hassle of positioning a datewheel overlay like a typical Rolex build

Real noob question but how come rolex builds have a date overlay yet the tudor ones dont, is it the movements?

 

[Quick_Build]

I've built numerous watches from raffles parts, it's probably the easiest route to go for beginners.

Email Ken (raffles owner) if you have specific questions and need parts not listed on his site. You'd be surprised what he can get.

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[Quick_Build]

Here's one raffles build, with a Gen dj on the left. The watch on the right has a Gen dial. I still need to reposition the cyclops but I think it came out ok.

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[abethecat]

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Here's one raffles build, with a Gen dj on the left. The watch on the right has a Gen dial. I still need to reposition the cyclops but I think it came out ok.

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Cool

 

[Hinclimincli]

Forgive my naivity as im not as astute on the details as some of the more seasoned members, but the lugs on the Rafflesdials look a little wider than the gen on the left?

I'm not 100% sure but the one on the right looks like a 6-digit Datejust (116200?). Btw, I really like that one @Quick_Build nice job!

EDIT: not at all, it's a 16200 five digit DJ, ha. I should think twice before posting.