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Rolex Explorer II 216570 Black dial. First Rep purchase

John1912

Horology Curious
26/7/19
14
3
0
Hi everyone. Have been reading and I am very new to this forum. This is my first rep watch and I decided to go with Puretime. Have been emailing with Jennifer as I was contemplating between JF, Noob (316 Ss) or GMF (904 SS)

In the end decided to take plunge and ordered the JF A2836 V3. Let’s see how this turn out!

27 July 2019: Order placed!
 

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John1912

Horology Curious
26/7/19
14
3
0
Hi everyone. Have been reading and I am very new to this forum. This is my first rep watch and I decided to go with Puretime. Have been emailing with Jennifer as I was contemplating between JF, Noob (316 Ss) or GMF (904 SS)

In the end decided to take plunge and ordered the JF A2836 V3. Let’s see how this turn out!

Rolex Explorer II 42mm 216570 JF 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on SS Bracelet A2836 V3
- Asian 2836 automatic movement at 28,800 VPH
- 1:1 high quality 316F stainless steel, screw-in back and crown, deep and double line engraved rehaut, brighter and more accurate engravings, random serial number engraved at 6:00 of the rehaut. Different random serials
- Scratch-proof sapphire crystal with anti-reflection coated 2.5x cyclops (Swiss standard, double-sided, same as genuine) the cyclops is very clear as genuine.

Timeline
27 July 2019 (Sat): Order placed
29 July 2019 (Tue): Payment confirmed
3 Aug 2019 (Sat): QC pics arrived
4 Aug 2019 (Sun): QC confirmed
6 Aug 2019 (Tue): Tracking number received
7 Aug 2019 (Wed): In Transit
8 Aug 2019 (Thur): 0953 - Out For Delivery
8 Aug 2019 (Thur): 2033 - Delivered

My Review:

What I like: It definitely is a high quality rep. Pardon me as I have encountered lousy ones before. Winding the watch feels solid. Lume is bright enough for me and I would be hard pressed to spot the flaws from what I see in 2018 YouTube videos about replicas.

What I did not like: Disclaimer, i am a watch noob. I bought an Amazon watch tool kit with the intend to remove the links when I received this watch. The rolex strap needs the screw driver to remove the links. i needed to remove 3 links in total. As i tried to remove the screws, i found them to be of different tightness. Some were easy, some were slightly difficult. I should have left it and brought it to a watch shop. However, I was too eager to want to wear it today. In the process, I think I damaged 3 screws. 2 of them I could remove but after I put them back, I can't take them out again. Super stuck and the screw driver can't turn. Last 1 I couldn't even remove it from the bracelet.
I was feeling quite frustrated but managed to find some permutations of those that can be removed, to remove 3 links in total. Still sucks to know that as I am wearing it, one of the screws is spoilt.

If anyone knows what I did wrong or have advice for me, I would greatly appreciate.

Well I know you are here for pictures. So here goes

QC Pics
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Pics of the watch in my hands

The links. Notice one of them the screw is slightly out. I can't screw it back in.
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Kit from amazon

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In my hands
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Thank you and hope this has been useful to you regardless if you are considering PureTime or the Explorer 2.

If there were other details that I could have provided, please let me know below and I will try to do so in my next purchase.
Looking at AP and Blancpain. :)
 
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Thanks for the detailed review. Glad to know it arrived safely and in good condition. Sorry about the screws and please PM me if you need any help. Thank you
 
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Marfang

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Sounds like you’ve cross threaded the screws when you’ve put them back in, and in your eagerness/rush, you’ve forced them back into position, which will have stripped the threads.
Hence the reason they are now very tight/stuck.

What you should have done is put them in gently, until they are in place, then slowly and gently turn them anti clockwise until you feel a slight click. This is the beginning of the thread. Then when you turn clockwise it should screw in nicely. (Always being gentle)

Imagine it was a Gen, you wouldn’t just rag on the screws until they were in place or rounded off.

Unfortunately, only way to try it out is practice.
 
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John1912

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Thanks so much Marfang. Yes you are right. I think if it was a gen i would have been much more careful, or even bought a cheaper bracelet to practice on first. Any solution now? Would bringing it to a watch repair shop help?
 

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Thanks for the detailed review. Glad to know it arrived safely and in good condition. Sorry about the screws and please PM me if you need any help. Thank you

Thanks Pure time. I think it is my own fault. Not sure if there is anyway you can help. Haha. Maybe I will bring to a watch shop today to take a look.
 

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Thanks Pure time. I think it is my own fault. Not sure if there is anyway you can help. Haha. Maybe I will bring to a watch shop today to take a look.

Maybe they will have more experiences in taking out the screws. Just to let you know i am always here to help :)
 

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Congrats on your first real rep. Hey, I can relate to the screw problem. Years ago when I first got into watches I messsed up some screws too. Just like said above you have to be very delicate. screwing in very slowly. Just take your time with everything with such tiny parts and especially with threads so tiny. They can cross very easily if not careful. Another thing I do every time I get a new watch is check every screw, just in case. I tighten each one. There can always be one or a couple that are loose and if they are they can back themselves out as you wear the watch over time. Congrats again and enjoy. How are you liking the watch now that you've had it for a little while? The exp II is my favorite watch of all time.
 

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Hi everyone. Have been reading and I am very new to this forum. This is my first rep watch and I decided to go with Puretime. Have been emailing with Jennifer as I was contemplating between JF, Noob (316 Ss) or GMF (904 SS)

In the end decided to take plunge and ordered the JF A2836 V3. Let’s see how this turn out!

Rolex Explorer II 42mm 216570 JF 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on SS Bracelet A2836 V3
- Asian 2836 automatic movement at 28,800 VPH
- 1:1 high quality 316F stainless steel, screw-in back and crown, deep and double line engraved rehaut, brighter and more accurate engravings, random serial number engraved at 6:00 of the rehaut. Different random serials
- Scratch-proof sapphire crystal with anti-reflection coated 2.5x cyclops (Swiss standard, double-sided, same as genuine) the cyclops is very clear as genuine.

Timeline
27 July 2019 (Sat): Order placed
29 July 2019 (Tue): Payment confirmed
3 Aug 2019 (Sat): QC pics arrived
4 Aug 2019 (Sun): QC confirmed
6 Aug 2019 (Tue): Tracking number received
7 Aug 2019 (Wed): In Transit
8 Aug 2019 (Thur): 0953 - Out For Delivery
8 Aug 2019 (Thur): 2033 - Delivered

My Review:

What I like: It definitely is a high quality rep. Pardon me as I have encountered lousy ones before. Winding the watch feels solid. Lume is bright enough for me and I would be hard pressed to spot the flaws from what I see in 2018 YouTube videos about replicas.

What I did not like: Disclaimer, i am a watch noob. I bought an Amazon watch tool kit with the intend to remove the links when I received this watch. The rolex strap needs the screw driver to remove the links. i needed to remove 3 links in total. As i tried to remove the screws, i found them to be of different tightness. Some were easy, some were slightly difficult. I should have left it and brought it to a watch shop. However, I was too eager to want to wear it today. In the process, I think I damaged 3 screws. 2 of them I could remove but after I put them back, I can't take them out again. Super stuck and the screw driver can't turn. Last 1 I couldn't even remove it from the bracelet.
I was feeling quite frustrated but managed to find some permutations of those that can be removed, to remove 3 links in total. Still sucks to know that as I am wearing it, one of the screws is spoilt.

If anyone knows what I did wrong or have advice for me, I would greatly appreciate.

Well I know you are here for pictures. So here goes

QC Pics
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Pics of the watch in my hands

The links. Notice one of them the screw is slightly out. I can't screw it back in.
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Kit from amazon

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In my hands
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Thank you and hope this has been useful to you regardless if you are considering PureTime or the Explorer 2.

If there were other details that I could have provided, please let me know below and I will try to do so in my next purchase.
Looking at AP and Blancpain. :)




Would you be kind enough to send again the Photos of the Watch? Including photos that will show the Lumes on the Watch?
Apparently, I can no longer see them.