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PATEK NAUTILUS 1:1 any good?

gran

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A. GENUINE NAUTILUS IN DETAILS FIRST:


Current Mens Version: Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711


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Newest Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711-1A
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Current versions:
1. 5711-1A = All SSteel and on SSteel bracelet and Blue dial/face only
2. 5711G = White Gold and only on leather strap. Grey dial/face
3. 5711J = Yellow gold and only on leather strap. Silver dial/face
4. 5711R = PINK/RED gold and only on leather strap. Black dial/face



New accents in yellow, white and rose gold

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To spotlight the aesthetic combination of materials, the dials match the case color in each version. They are silvery for the yellow-gold model, a warmer brown-charcoal for the rose-gold model, and a cool slate gray for the white-gold model. The brown-charcoal dial is galvanized and lacquered to produce a light-to-dark gradation from the center to the periphery. The silvery gray and slate gray dials are galvanized and not gradated. All dials feature the distinctive Nautilus horizontal embossing pattern and large applied luminous hour markers in yellow, white or rose gold to match the case.

These new Nautilus Grande Taille variations are worn on alligator straps – safari black with white gold, chocolate with yellow gold, and dark brown with rose gold. The fold-over clasp in matching gold is a new three-part design with a threaded length adjustment device for a particularly gentle and secure fit.






Conclusion on the genuine versions:
So strictly speaking

1. Natulius 5711-1A with blue dial should be SS and have the SS bracelet

2. The Natulius 5711J Silver, 5711R Black and 5711G Grey dial ones should be in gold and have leather bracelets


3. However the White Gold 3711G version from 2004 to 2006 has a gray white gold bracelet Link: http://watch-fever.blogspot.com/2010/05/patek-philippe-37111a-wg-nautilus.html



Note: there is also a current and previous smaller diameter Patek Philippe Nautilus and ladies versions but we will not discuss those here




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The Nautilus History in brief:

Key dates
1976 3700/1A Presentation of first Nautilus, nicknamed “Jumboâ€, production discontinued 1990

1981 3800/1A Launch of medium model, production discontinued 2006
1981 4700/1A Launch of ladies’ model, production discontinued 2006
1998 3710/1A Relaunch of large “Jumbo†model with winding zone indicator IZR, production discontinued 2006
2004 3711/1A Launch of large model in white gold, + White Gold bracelet production discontinued 2006

2006 Launch of new NAUTILUS collection


Evolution of the new Nautilus 2006 collection
1. Case shape, rounded hinges
2. Sapphire-crystal caseback for all models of the collection
3. The shape of the hour markers matches contour of octagonal bezel at every position
4. Larger hands
5. Bracelet proportions slightly changed and connection improved
6. Models in gold with leather straps
7. First rose gold model in the Nautilus collection
8. New case design (three parts instead of two) with back and screw-down crown
9. New three-part fold-over clasp and double safety feature for leather straps
10. New case dimensions:New “Jumbo†size: 43 mm (original “Jumbo†size: 42 mm)


Technical data: Nautilus Ref. 5711/1A Steel
Movement Caliber 315 SC
Self-winding mechanical movement
Diameter: 27 mm
Height: 3.22 mm
Number of parts: 213
Number of jewels: 29
Power reserve: Min. 38 hours, max. 48 hours
Winding rotor: central rotor in 21K gold, unidirectional winding
Balance spring: Flat
Functions: Winding crown with three positions:
– Pushed in: To wind the movement
– Pulled halfway out: To correct the date
– Pulled out: To set the time
Displays:
– Hours, minutes, and sweep seconds
– Date aperture at 3 o'clock
Features:
Case: Three-part case (back, caseband, bezel)
Stainless steel, sapphire-crystal caseback, water-resistant screwdown crown
Bezel with vertical satin finish water-resistant to 120 meters
Case dimensions: 3 to 9 o’clock: 43 mm (including hinges)
3 to 9 o’clock including crown: 44.02 mm
6 to 12 o’clock: 38 mm (bezel)
2 to 8 o’clock: 40 mm
Height: 8.30 mm
Dial: Gradation from dark blue in the middle to black at the periphery, horizontal embossed pattern
12 applied baton hour markers in 18K white gold with luminous coating
Baton-style hour and minute hands in 18K white gold with luminous coating
Seconds hand in white gold
Bracelet: Stainless steel, middle links polished, outer links satin-finished, stainless steel fold-over clasp

Links:

http://patek.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpost&fi=11&pi=3880411&ti=619551&s=0
http://www.connectingwatches.com/forums/fs:-patek-philippe----50275.html
http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-11/pi-1945306/ti-297220/s-0/
http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=315206&rid=0
http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Patek-Philippe/Nautilus-Watches/5711/1A-c14272-watch.aspx
http://patek.watchprosite.com/?show=nblog.post&ti=557496&fi=112&s=0
http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-11/pi-2623981/ti-437296/s-0/
http://www.connectingwatches.com/forums/fs:-patek-philippe-g-a-g-r-j-50173.html
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B. THE 5711 1:1 REPLICAS:

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THE 1:1 version is the best replica of the NAUTILUS :thumbsupsmileyanim:


Conclusions:

1. The Blue dial 5711 Replica version with SS bracelet is closest to the original :thumbsupsmileyanim:

2. The hours markers follow he dial like on the genuine. The shape of the hour markers matches contour of octagonal bezel at every position :thumbsupsmileyanim: (The position or length of the hour markers at 6 and 12 O'Clock on Replica are maybe not identical to most pictures of the newest version of the original) :pardon:

3. The "gold" Replica versions i.e. those with silver, black or gray dial 1:1 versions should all have leather straps. also they should have gold stamps on the back that are missing on these 1:1 replicas :drinks:

4. Rotor on Replica is very very nice and a huge improvement but PATEK logo is not engraved but is a stick on :drinks:

5. Dimensions, Screw in crown, crystal, caseback, links on bracelet, hands etc. are close enough to the genuine :thumbsupsmileyanim:

6. The SS bracelet is of sufficiently quality but not quite 1:1 with the original (engraved logo on clasp is inferior and the extra holes in the replica bracelett is a negative). This could easily be improved? :pardon:

7. I have not inspected the straps so not sure on that.

8. Movement on replica is SWISS. The Sellita SW200 works excellent and nice super smooth 28.800 sweep (but obviously the genuine movement is a masterpiece and can not be replicated) :thumbsupsmileyanim:

9. The replica is of a high quality product and QC seems better than on most replicas :thumbsupsmileyanim:

10 Position of date window is correct :thumbsupsmileyanim: and font and size of date is acceptable :thumbsupsmileyanim:

11. The hour markers follow the case shape in the same way as the original :thumbsupsmileyanim:

12. Lume is on hands and hour markers but is replica style and weak :victory:

To sum it up this is an excellent replica in most ways and I will use this watch as often as I can :thumbsupsmileyanim: (Even if the SS bracelett could be improved, and also an engraved insignia rater than stick-on to the gold rotor would be better. Also there is the question of the position of the hour markers at 12 and 6 O'Clock but some genuines seem to be exactly like the replica in this respect)




C. My 5711G Replica from MARY


MY REPLICA of the 5711G (or actually it is more like the 3711/1G?)
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D. THE GENUINE 5711G
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E. More details on genuine Nautilus versions 5711-1, 5711G
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Note more details later :whistling:


Note: The NAUTILUS 3711/1G produced only from 2004 to 2006 was in white gold with white gold bracelett.

Ref 3711/1A White Gold Nautilus. The Last one is very very rare, believe there is less than 100o pieces ever made.This combination is not available on the current 5711 series. Notice that the hour markers differ from current 5711 version
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Some links to the replica here on RWG:
http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/13104...hl__+mbw++nautilus__fromsearch__1#entry960816


http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/13037...hl__+mbw++nautilus__fromsearch__1#entry954956

http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/12762...__hl__mbw+nautilus__fromsearch__1#entry928328
 

Bonesey

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Well, cracking post mate, thanks very much for sharing. These are watches that are definitely on my radar to own. Once I'm over my Rolex obsession that is :p

+rep given.
 

co-axial

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Gran, good write up! Not my kind of watch (not into dress watches really) but I really enjoy Pictorials (I LOVE PICS!). Thank you :)
 

honeybear

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Hi Gran, excellent review. Could you elaborate about the issue with the position of the hour markers at 12 and 6?
 

Aza

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Great piece of work, well done :)
Have some rep
 

mbjoer

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Excellent post and pics!!

A few comments:

Silverspeed showed his gold version here:
http://www.replica-watches-guide.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19440&pid=299489&st=0&#entry299489

It does have hallmarks!! :) :)

Also the clasp seems to have good, deep engravings. Better than the bracelet.

But engravings remain the issue to crack now. On rotor and movement. If they can sort that we will have a true Patek super rep - even if the movement is not the right one.

Thanks for sharing all this.
 

Davide

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I hear that the stick markers at 12 o'clock have some alignment problems in some reps...
This is what is keeping my from ordering a nautilus :(
 

mydnytrydr

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That's got "Rep of the Year" qualities, imho ....... Gorgeous watch!
 

trailboss99

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Be aware that the factory that makes these has some issues with da cops right now and supply may be rather short for a while. Make sure you ask if it's in stock before sending any funds.
 

bayoule

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imho,
the big issue with that rep is the stripes on the dial. even width for gen, largely uneven for rep. interestingly enough this one is almost never brout up. it is the biggest and surest tell imho...
 

mianos

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I am just getting one of these. I like the white but didn't want to be wearing a watch that's meant to be white gold, but if you look on the PP web site there is a version with the white faces in stainless steel, the
5711/1A-011
 

BENTY

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Vey good post I love this watch as I do many others, but this watch is cool and will be purchasing one very soon.
Just trying to find the best one and who to buy from.
 

dalp

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gentleman, I am not sure I get the manufacturer of the replica you are reviewing...thanks..
 

Tobel

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gentleman, I am not sure I get the manufacturer of the replica you are reviewing...thanks..

This is a 7 year old thread. You may want to check more recent threads with the latest models and factories
 
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