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    Originally posted by Orev View Post

    I need this for my incoming 88. Any chance the person who provided can provide one for me?


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    The person is mentioned in the post you quoted. It's probably better to ask him directly. Good luck.

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      http://www.cigaraficionado.com

      https://www.tudorwatch.com

      If it floats , flies or fucks it's probably cheaper to rent!

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        Having owned the GEN in the mid 2000s it’s fun to have the 88 back in my collection. Despite the flaws.
        Such a fun piece.

        http://www.cigaraficionado.com

        https://www.tudorwatch.com

        If it floats , flies or fucks it's probably cheaper to rent!

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          If you had the choice, would you take the VSF or the HFac?
          WTB:

          -PloProf V2
          -Noob or BK 16710

          -JF AP ROO Sachin Tendulkar, Jarno Trulli, 57th Street, Black Rubberclad, Beast... anything else, offers?

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            Noob version on m2m spotted
            WTB:

            -PloProf V2
            -Noob or BK 16710

            -JF AP ROO Sachin Tendulkar, Jarno Trulli, 57th Street, Black Rubberclad, Beast... anything else, offers?

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              Yep, no doubt it'll find a new owner quick.

              I'm pretty new to reps but for having a Noob 297 O-series I'd say the overall feeling is excellent.

              There's a cool thread on RG regarding the evolution of PAM reps : https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

              Envoyé de mon ELE-L29 en utilisant Tapatalk

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                Hi all

                Long time without doing a review but I think this VSF release deserves a study and a few words.

                From the point of view of quality of manufacture and finish, the watch is irreproachable and looks fantastic.
                But from the point of view of a good and serious modern replica, I think the results leave a lot to be desired. The downside is that many of them could have been avoided, just with a little care and attention in the development of the project by the manufacturer VSF

                It is inadmissible, in the manufacture of current good replicas, to allow failures such as an incorrect CG, not only in shape but in finish, an incorrect surface finish subdial, a date cyclops with “frozen halo” or a bad choice of the movement, allowing an incorrect position of the Balance Wheel and offering a GMT 12hrs function instead of the correct GMT 24hrs. That could have been avoided with a 7750-based movement like the gene does.
                I consider these flaws more as a sloppiness of the manufacturer rather than an inability to obtain accuracy.

                Summary of failures observed as indicated below:
                • Brushed CG instead of polished, with very sharp corners, gen corners are really rounded and soft. Gen has brushed only the lever.
                • CG is the modern Luminor CG, wich gen has from H series. Just the square hole for the crown looks a bit smaller than gen, because gen seems to have more space to pull out the crown. Besides, the gen corners are much rounder and, due to this reason ,the gen CG looks thinner and smaller. For this watch a current CG from a Luminor 44mm caseset, polished and with nicely rounded edges would have been enough.
                • Lug holes are placed higher, like it happens on KW/XF cases
                • 12 hrs GMT
                • “Frozen halo” on date cyclops
                • The second subdial @9 has no concentric circles like gen and it is a bit bigger
                • Dial layout is almost perfect, but the hour markers are a bit thicker and a bit greenish
                • "R"of PANERAI and LUMINOR is also wrong and there are some differences in "m" and "a" in Automatic inscription.
                • Nice but a bit inaccurate caseback
                • Inaccurate movement, gen is a OPVIII based on ETA 7750 with BW @7, the rep has a Clone P.9001 mvmt. with BW @7
                • As a little flaw, the clasp of the strap should be polished (no worries about that)
                Many flaws to be a good super rep

                ALE

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                  ^ Excellent summary of the flaws ALE - thank you.

                  Still a great looking PAM though.
                  WTB:
                  PAM253 - PAM288 - PAM214 - PAM064 - PAM192 - PAM087

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                    ALE7575 well resumed, it's sad VSF failed with this classic when you can see how perfect (almost) are their others releases.

                    I could accept all the flaw but the 12h gmt and the CG shape is a no-no.
                    WTB:

                    -PloProf V2
                    -Noob or BK 16710

                    -JF AP ROO Sachin Tendulkar, Jarno Trulli, 57th Street, Black Rubberclad, Beast... anything else, offers?

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                      Originally posted by Woundup View Post
                      ^ Excellent summary of the flaws ALE - thank you.

                      Still a great looking PAM though.

                      ALE7575 well resumed, it's sad VSF failed with this classic when you can see how perfect (almost) are their others releases.

                      I could accept all the flaw but the 12h gmt and the CG shape is a no-no.

                      Thanks for your kind words

                      ALE

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                        ALE7575 great summary and review!

                        One question if you don't mind.

                        Could you explain what you mean by "Frozen Halo" cyclops?

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                          Best not search for ways to hate the watch. Just enjoy the rep for what it is. Haha


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                            Originally posted by mech500 View Post
                            Best not search for ways to hate the watch. Just enjoy the rep for what it is. Haha


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                            This, despite it faults I love it!

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                              Originally posted by jonnybaws View Post


                              This, despite it faults I love it!

                              Definitely.
                              May not be accurate but great feeling with this watch!

                              Envoyé de mon ELE-L29 en utilisant Tapatalk

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                                Originally posted by sukwonee View Post
                                ALE7575 great summary and review!

                                One question if you don't mind.

                                Could you explain what you mean by "Frozen Halo" cyclops?
                                Thanks for the question.

                                It is important the explanation because we have not talked about this for a long time and many people do not remember the meaning or have never heard of it.

                                "Frozen halo" is a white circle at the contour of the cyclops lens of the date. Gen is clean and transparent, some replicas (as in this case) have a white halo that we call "frozen halo"

                                I hope is clear now

                                ALE

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