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PAM 438 VSF Released with Super Clone P9001

mysterio

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Beautiful but how do you put minutes on time ?


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You pull out the crown to the outermost position like on the previous movement (or like a regular watch). On the gen movement it also resets the seconds hand to allow for exact synchronization but on the rep it does not.

It’s YouTube video no idea just sharing


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That's a video of the gen as far as I can tell, the movement is all black. As are the other watches in his channel, unless you're saying the PAM526 regatta chrono has also been repped.
 

nexezz

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So many PAMs, so little time... and then you bought one I was looking to buy. :bang:

:hehehe: I knew you would get one! I'm strongly considering letting my LMPO go for one of those 438s too! :X Those are sexy!
 

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:hehehe: I knew you would get one! I'm strongly considering letting my LMPO go for one of those 438s too! :X Those are sexy!

Well other than a V3 P.9001 movement (which resets the seconds hand at position 2) and a totally blacked out movement, there's nothing else I would need to improve.
 

Markie

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Can you move the time backwards, or is it like the Noob GMT CHS movement where it’ll probably break?
 

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The silver under the balance wheel is a letdown for sure, but there are SO many other amazing improvements that I’m very tempted to upgrade my first gen PAM438.

@Frikman apart from (1) the important 12-hour GMT hand and (2) the position of the escapement Wheel what are the other 3 amazing improvements that are in your top5 list?
 

mysterio

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If anyone gets a v2 vsf and decides to let it go, i get first dibs lol

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V2 of what? The PAM438? There isn't one. :tongue: Well yet, anyway. If you're talking about this watch, this is a VSF V1 (version not stated). Factories count versions for the same watch from them (at least, there may be more variables). V6F, although related, is not VSF. So we have a ZF PAM438 DLC, V6F PAM438 Ceramic, ZF PAM438 Ceramic (it's not ZF V2), and a VSF PAM438 Ceramic.
 

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V2 of what? The PAM438? There isn't one. :tongue: Well yet, anyway. If you're talking about this watch, this is a VSF V1 (version not stated). Factories count versions for the same watch from them (at least, there may be more variables). V6F, although related, is not VSF. So we have a ZF PAM438 DLC, V6F PAM438 Ceramic, ZF PAM438 Ceramic (it's not ZF V2), and a VSF PAM438 Ceramic.
Its vsf 438, technically v1. But the movement is v2 with the 12hr gmt heheh :)

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Its vsf 438, technically v1. But the movement is v2 with the 12hr gmt heheh :)

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Good try, but the TDs still don't call it a VSF PAM438 V2. ;) Even out of 3 TDs, only 1 mentions the V2 P9001 movement. Because they don't want to unnecessarily entertain questions like "What's different about the V2 from the V1?" :lol:

https://puretime03.com/pam438-o-rea...ramic-bracelet-p9001-b-free-burnish-tool.html
https://www.intime01.co/panerai/415...per-clone-p9001-best-on-ceramic-bracelet.html
http://chazingtime.co/product/pam438-o-real-ceramic-vsf-11-best-edition-ceramic-bracelet-p9001b/
 

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Good try, but the TDs still don't call it a VSF PAM438 V2. ;) Even out of 3 TDs, only 1 mentions the V2 P9001 movement. Because they don't want to unnecessarily entertain questions like "What's different about the V2 from the V1?" [emoji38]

https://puretime03.com/pam438-o-rea...ramic-bracelet-p9001-b-free-burnish-tool.html
https://www.intime01.co/panerai/415...per-clone-p9001-best-on-ceramic-bracelet.html
http://chazingtime.co/product/pam438-o-real-ceramic-vsf-11-best-edition-ceramic-bracelet-p9001b/
Yea but you know what I mean lol.

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mysterio

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Yea but you know what I mean lol.

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Actually you had me scratching my head for a moment there ("What? There's a VSF V2 PAM438 already? I haven't even got the V1 yet."). :lol: But just to clarify lest somebody else catches on and confuses the heck out of the TDs when they come back tomorrow with stock inquiries of the VSF V2 PAM438. :lol:
 

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Is this latest model a huge step forward from previous releases from other manufacturers?
 

nexezz

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Is this latest model a huge step forward from previous releases from other manufacturers?

In terms of movement, yes. The escapement wheel is finally in the correct position.
 

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In terms of movement, yes. The escapement wheel is finally in the correct position.

Not only that. I appreciate the fact that the factory waited until the V2 P.9001 movement was released before releasing this watch. We're not sure if there will even be a V3 movement as it's a very minor function (seconds reset) so the V2 at this moment is the best you can get.
 

Markie

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What about quality of the bracelet, case, and crystal? Major improvements there? Or is this mainly a change to just the movement quality?