New Pam XF 616 look promising

[Repworld]

http://www.pf-818.com/0170-32248.html
XF Pam 616 R Carbotech ! The Best Ever Made So Far !!! Fully Decorated New VS P9000 Movement Individual Serial Numbers, Individual BB Nos and Individual Movement Serial No - The First Maker to do this feature !!! Free Blue Leather Strap with Luminous Green Base with Carbon Weave Line Design

All Parts can be Interchange with Genuine !!


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[reppin]

looks promising indeed

 

[tosoboso]

To me, the best part seems to be the structure of the FC whereas there seem to be 4 different shades of grey as opposed to the 2 tone bezels that came with the earlier attempts. As far as I can remember the gen too has 4 tone/shade structure. So well done!

 

[Repworld]

To me, the best part seems to be the structure of the FC whereas there seem to be 4 different shades of grey as opposed to the 2 tone bezels that came with the earlier attempts. As far as I can remember the gen too has 4 tone/shade structure. So well done!

There's tones photos in instgram #pam 616


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[CybNoX]

Gen Photos

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[mysterio]

Nice upgrade on the Carbotech case.

 

[pompompurin]

can't wait till someone disassembles that new breed of p9000 movement and report back

 

[Repworld]

It's new p900 movement I will share perfect clone website QC


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[Repworld]

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[CybNoX]

It's new p900 movement I will share perfect clone website QC


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thanks for the updated info,

the movement is not the independent hour hand yet though?

 

[Repworld]

thanks for the updated info,

the movement is not the independent hour hand yet though?

Sorry no experience but look like new clone this's description View attachment 77107


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[ernien]

Just to add a few things here, the XF/VSF PAM616 was originally released in April with the P9000 clone movement.

This one appears to have the same movement as the April release as it doesn't have the little visual differences of the V2 found in the 441.

But the Carbotech pattern definitely looks better with at least 3 shades of grey and of varying sizes.

The QC pics are from the April release, you can tell this by the older order number.

So I guess this is a VSF/XF 616 V2 case with V1 movement.

 

[CybNoX]

Just to add a few things here, the XF/VSF PAM616 was originally released in April with the P9000 clone movement.

This one appears to have the same movement as the April release as it doesn't have the little visual differences of the V2 found in the 441.

But the Carbotech pattern definitely looks better with at least 3 shades of grey and of varying sizes.

The QC pics are from the April release, you can tell this by the older order number.

So I guess this is a VSF/XF 616 V2 case with V1 movement.

same understanding

 

[Repworld]

Just to add a few things here, the XF/VSF PAM616 was originally released in April with the P9000 clone movement.

This one appears to have the same movement as the April release as it doesn't have the little visual differences of the V2 found in the 441.

But the Carbotech pattern definitely looks better with at least 3 shades of grey and of varying sizes.

The QC pics are from the April release, you can tell this by the older order number.

So I guess this is a VSF/XF 616 V2 case with V1 movement.

Let's wait for intime and PT


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[mysterio]

Let's be clear. The PAM616 Carbotech uses a P.9000 movement. The PAM441 Ceramica uses a P.9001 movement. Their movements should not be considered interchangeable, especially when dealing with open caseback models. However, in the case of closed caseback reps like the PAM616 and the PAM569, I guess using the V2 P.9001 clone with the un-used GMT function is a compromise that some may find acceptable.

 

[pompompurin]

Sorry no experience but look like new clone this's description View attachment 77107


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Let's be clear. The PAM616 Carbotech uses a P.9000 movement. The PAM441 Ceramica uses a P.9001 movement. Their movements should not be considered interchangeable, especially when dealing with open caseback models. However, in the case of closed caseback reps like the PAM616 and the PAM569, I guess using the V2 P.9001 clone with the un-used GMT function is a compromise that some may find acceptable.

Just to add a few things here, the XF/VSF PAM616 was originally released in April with the P9000 clone movement.

This one appears to have the same movement as the April release as it doesn't have the little visual differences of the V2 found in the 441.

But the Carbotech pattern definitely looks better with at least 3 shades of grey and of varying sizes.

The QC pics are from the April release, you can tell this by the older order number.

So I guess this is a VSF/XF 616 V2 case with V1 movement.

Thanks guys, i have just started reading about Panerai (because I want to buy my first one) and I am a complete noob as i mainly dwell in the Rolex section. This is all very informative to me

 

[mysterio]

Thanks guys, i have just started reading about Panerai (because I want to buy my first one) and I am a complete noob as i mainly dwell in the Rolex section. This is all very informative to me

Well, always happy to welcome another member into the PAMily.

Visually, there is a slight visual difference in the structure of the P.9000 and the P.9001 movement, mainly the power reserve gauge, so open casebacks would automatically disqualify the use of the more complicated P.9001 on P.9000 based models.

P.9000

P.9001

But in a closed caseback situation, where none of this is visible, and functionally the P.9001 and P.9000 are identical (with only the P.9001 having a GMT complication but since there is no GMT hand to be used so you wouldn't know about it), the use of the V2 P.9001 clone movement would not be a bad choice, IMHO.

 

[panasol]

? can still see only 2 shades of gray in the pics that Repworld posted...

 

[pompompurin]

Well, always happy to welcome another member into the PAMily.

Visually, there is a slight visual difference in the structure of the P.9000 and the P.9001 movement, mainly the power reserve gauge, so open casebacks would automatically disqualify the use of the more complicated P.9001 on P.9000 based models.

P.9000

P.9001

But in a closed caseback situation, where none of this is visible, and functionally the P.9001 and P.9000 are identical (with only the P.9001 having a GMT complication but since there is no GMT hand to be used so you wouldn't know about it), the use of the V2 P.9001 clone movement would not be a bad choice, IMHO.

@mysterio Thank you for the kind and warm welcome to the pamily haha
there is so much information i am currently trying to absorb, but your quick pointers on the p9000 vs 9001 is intriguing and informative for a newbie like me
i also look forward to the new p3000 upgraded movement - they seem to have accurately replicated this movement visually from the caseback which is perfect for OCD people like me

 

[ernien]

? can still see only 2 shades of gray in the pics that Repworld posted...

Yeah the QC pics he posted is the old one.

Here's the new