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PAM671 identification

Casinoboy

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Hi folks need some help identifying this bronzo 671. It is a local deal. Seller tells me it is a ZF new watch. First signs are ok, but he tells me it is brand new like he bought it now. I asked him what dealer but he not want to tell me. Hope can get some confirmation here if it is indeed ZF or SF. I also requested a picture of the balance.

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papabear244

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If it’s brand new, the stickers must have been peeled out a while ago, given the patina. But then, why would he peel out the stickers?


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If it’s brand new, the stickers must have been peeled out a while ago, given the patina. But then, why would he peel out the stickers?


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Yes i thought the same bit just let it go.. i rather it not be new and the real deal..

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Hello.

Yes, this is ZF. I'm not sure that someone would lie that this is ZF, because this is already watch far from GEN quite significantly.
 
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Hello.

Yes, this is ZF. I'm not sure that someone would lie that this is ZF, because this is already watch far from GEN quite significantly.
Thanks KOT1917 no was not sure if they made like a cheap version of the 671 :) but thanks for the confirmation.

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The PAM671 was made by ZF and XF in versions 1 and 2.
Nothing, never heard or seen about the SF 671, nor the cheap real bronze versions, 7750 and the deco plate under the P.9010.
Honestly, I want to say that the clock in your photos looks worse to me than those ZFs that I saw before, but it's hard for me to understand if this is a specificity of the photo.

Here is a christomatic example of the comparison between ZF and XF, created by our esteemed moderator, who lost photos when viewing on RWI. You can make sure that this watch is shown there:

https://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?/topic/130431-comparison-and-review-zf-pam671-and-xf-pam671-v2/

If your seller, claims that this is new, then considering that the PAM968 ZF was recently made, maybe they did some 671 too, but there was no information about the yut on the forum, and this is somewhat different from what was done 4-5 years ago, however, these are only guesses.

From the facts, I see here the typical shortcomings of the ZF of that time, in the form of hands and markers, and the proprietary specifics of this factory, in the form of CP with edging, but in general, although everything, of course, depends on your need for this watch and the price, I personally would skip this 671.
 

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The PAM671 was made by ZF and XF in versions 1 and 2.
Nothing, never heard or seen about the SF 671, nor the cheap real bronze versions, 7750 and the deco plate under the P.9010.
Honestly, I want to say that the clock in your photos looks worse to me than those ZFs that I saw before, but it's hard for me to understand if this is a specificity of the photo.

Here is a christomatic example of the comparison between ZF and XF, created by our esteemed moderator, who lost photos when viewing on RWI. You can make sure that this watch is shown there:

https://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?/topic/130431-comparison-and-review-zf-pam671-and-xf-pam671-v2/

If your seller, claims that this is new, then considering that the PAM968 ZF was recently made, maybe they did some 671 too, but there was no information about the yut on the forum, and this is somewhat different from what was done 4-5 years ago, however, these are only guesses.

From the facts, I see here the typical shortcomings of the ZF of that time, in the form of hands and markers, and the proprietary specifics of this factory, in the form of CP with edging, but in general, although everything, of course, depends on your need for this watch and the price, I personally would skip this 671.
All depends on the price :) will not over pay thanks again KOT1917 for the informatiom and consideration

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I agree completely with KOT1917 this watch is clearly a ZF version. As far as I know, SF has not made this rep of PAM 671.

XF is a very correct, accurate and well build rep but the ZF version is really bad IMHO.

I think that at the current level of the reps, this watch is not worth whatever is the price

Just my thoughts

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I agree completely with KOT1917 this watch is clearly a ZF version. As far as I know, SF has not made this rep of PAM 671.

XF is a very correct, accurate and well build rep but the ZF version is really bad IMHO.

I think that at the current level of the reps, this watch is not worth whatever is the price

Just my thoughts

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Hi ALE7575 sorry i meant xf not sf i read the thread and the comparison thread so also decided to let it go. Thank you again for the big help love this forum!

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Hi ALE7575 sorry i meant xf not sf i read the thread and the comparison thread so also decided to let it go. Thank you again for the big help love this forum!

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No worries my friend

Just an advice. Let that watch pass. I think if you buy it you will regret it sooner or later

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Hello, I've been looking for a 671 for a long time, if you want to sell it, let me know

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Hello, I've been looking for a 671 for a long time, if you want to sell it, let me know

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I haven't bought it it is a local deal

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