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Full review of the VSF 8500 clone movement *Pic Heavy*
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obrienk
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Adrian has started the tear down of my A8500 and order all the genuine 2824 and 7750 parts that will fit...
How much is that costing? Considering doing the same...
Feel free to PM me if you prefer
How much is that costing? Considering doing the same...
Feel free to PM me if you prefer
No price given yet , You would have to ask him directly. PM: Ado213
Also he is in UK , But I'm in California and for me he is always my #1 choice, We have some great watch Smiths across all the Boards. I recommend, Strodda, Misiekped, Tickleshoes and occb2. I also recently found Unreformed66 over at Homage forum who does everything from a cheap A6497 to a Genuine Omega 863 and of course a Rolex 3135 . These are the only ones I fully endorse there are other watch smith's out there that quite frankly suck but I won't publicly name names
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obrienk
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I can now confirm that Swiss ETA 2824-2 reversing wheels are a direct fit. I'm in the process servicing one now that had a faulty reversing wheel so I had to change it. Result is superb, winding is smooth and I think the autowind is more efficient.
There are some improvements on the ratchet click in the new batches. On my early the little spring can easy jump out of place before the click is tightened with its screw. The new style have a slot for the spring end and is much more reliable.
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There are some improvements on the ratchet click in the new batches. On my early the little spring can easy jump out of place before the click is tightened with its screw. The new style have a slot for the spring end and is much more reliable.
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Thank You for your continuing work and improvement of this movement and this great thread
santre22 One more question please, I looked for the "Swiss ETA 2824-2 reversing wheels" and I did find 2 different part numbers ...
- ETA REVERSE AUXILIARY WHEEL FOR 2824-2 PART # 1530
- ETA REVERSE WHEEL FOR 2824-2 PART # 1488
Could you please point out what wheels are correct? I am guessing 2 pcs of the #1488, however I just wanted to make sure. Thank you yet again
- ETA REVERSE AUXILIARY WHEEL FOR 2824-2 PART # 1530
- ETA REVERSE WHEEL FOR 2824-2 PART # 1488
Could you please point out what wheels are correct? I am guessing 2 pcs of the #1488, however I just wanted to make sure. Thank you yet again
santre22 One more question please, I looked for the "Swiss ETA 2824-2 reversing wheels" and I did find 2 different part numbers ...
- ETA REVERSE AUXILIARY WHEEL FOR 2824-2 PART # 1530
- ETA REVERSE WHEEL FOR 2824-2 PART # 1488
Could you please point out what wheels are correct? I am guessing 2 pcs of the #1488, however I just wanted to make sure. Thank you yet again
Hi!
its one of the 1488 and one 1530 they are little different. The rotor connect to booth reversing wheels but the 1530 only connect to rotor and the 1488. The 1488 connect to rotor, the 1530 and last to the rest of the gear train.
The 2824-2 movement isn't compatible at all with the VSF watches. It's only that the custom 8500 movement clone use a few components from existing movements like 2824, 7750 etc.
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santre22 Thank you for all the answers! So in other words I better don't #$ck it up, there is no movement replacement other than the VSF
I am going to order the wheels to replace them, is there any other parts from other movements that would improve the VSF movement? I saw you mention that the keyless parts are the same as a, 7750 would it be worth replacing those? If I am going to take it all apart might as well replace every part that could improve it. Thank you!!
I am going to order the wheels to replace them, is there any other parts from other movements that would improve the VSF movement? I saw you mention that the keyless parts are the same as a, 7750 would it be worth replacing those? If I am going to take it all apart might as well replace every part that could improve it. Thank you!!
santre22 Thank you for all the answers! So in other words I better don't #$ck it up, there is no movement replacement other than the VSF
I am going to order the wheels to replace them, is there any other parts from other movements that would improve the VSF movement? I saw you mention that the keyless parts are the same as a, 7750 would it be worth replacing those? If I am going to take it all apart might as well replace every part that could improve it. Thank you!!
If you don't have any obvious problems with the keyless it isn't worth changing. The reversing wheels should be easy to change as you only have to remove the rotor then deco plate and then the actual auto winding bridge. The movement can stay in the case and in that process and the reversing wheels make a big difference.
santre22 I do want to go all out and disassemble the watch for a cleaning and lubing, my watch didn't come with a great movement, I do about -10 day and also perhaps this might be user error but I can't seem to be able to wind the watch with the stem. When I unscrew the stem "I think" I should be able to wind it on that first position (please correct me if I am wrong) if I am correct I should be feeling clicking as it winds but I just feel resistance with no clicking, the watch does wind with use. I have let it run out of reserve power and tried to wind it with the stem but it did not work, I tried other positions on the stem if I remember well next one would be hours and next minutes didn't feel other positions where I can try winding.
Anyhow that is one more reason to take it apart and check if everything looks right hence my question if there was any other parts that I could source easely that would make a difference since I am going to have the movement all disassabled and this would be the best time to make upgrades to it. Million thanks
Anyhow that is one more reason to take it apart and check if everything looks right hence my question if there was any other parts that I could source easely that would make a difference since I am going to have the movement all disassabled and this would be the best time to make upgrades to it. Million thanks
As the pallet fork seems to be the same or very similar to an a2824-2 I think it's 50 degrees.
However I tested the movement between 50-52 and the amplitude differ around 10-15 degrees.
Thank You, I went back through the pictures and saw you used 51 and 52 but I guessed 50 only because I knew it used some 2824 parts. I got mine from back from Adrian and its running great but moving a few links around on the bracelet the screw heads are really soft. Will post Pictures latter.
