How are our Australian friends doing?

[theREALgoat]

But the vaccine will not prevent you from getting covid or transmitting it, so why sould you get it? Also people who got the shot some ended getting covid multiple times, and hospitalized. But people who got a natrual covid without vaccine had a 13X stronger Antibodies. But in the end get it of you want or dont. Your body your choice. The vaccine is only to protect the one getting it, it never protected others.

The findings from 3 scientific medical studies, conducted by dozens upon dozens of medical doctors and academic biological researchers (Phd holders)... [h=1]Unvaccinated are 5X more likely to catch delta, 11X more likely to die[/h]

 

[Rx4Time]

The findings from 3 scientific medical studies, conducted by dozens upon dozens of medical doctors and academic biological researchers (Phd holders)... [h=1]Unvaccinated are 5X more likely to catch delta, 11X more likely to die[/h]

Why bother citing documented facts? He obviously knows more then the scientific community, CDC, WHO and us....I'm sure he has some super classified detoxifying combination of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and oral bleach protecting him....

 

[BlueLineFarmer]

The donkey told the tiger, "The grass is blue."
The tiger replied, "No, the grass is green ."
The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, so they approached the lion.
As they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ′′Your Highness, isn't it true that the grass is blue?"
The lion replied: "If you believe it is true, the grass is blue."
The donkey rushed forward and continued: ′′The tiger disagrees with me, contradicts me and annoys me. Please punish him."
The king then declared: ′′The tiger will be punished with 3 days of silence."
The donkey jumped with joy and went on his way, content and repeating ′′The grass is blue, the grass is blue..."
The tiger asked the lion, "Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, the grass is green?"
The lion replied, ′′You've known and seen the grass is green."
The tiger asked, ′′So why do you punish me?"

The lion replied, "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with an ass, and on top of that, you came and bothered me with that question just to validate something you already knew was true!"

The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand. Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.
When IGNORANCE SCREAMS, intelligence moves on.

 

[repreg123]

Get the vaccine already, there is NOTHING ELSE that can help you beat the tiny chance of dying from covid if you actually catch it...
oh wait..

https://ivmmeta.com/

 

[repreg123]

I never thought that it would be possible for people to WANT to be stripped of rights and monitored for compliance.. what a sad shit show of society

 

[Interesting]

Australia started out as a prison colony, so they are going back to their roots. What's happening in the US right now is pretty outrageous, but what happens in Australia, where no supreme law exists that guarantees even basic human rights, is beyond comprehension, really.

Wow. BIg but empty words for someone from a country that continues to have more riots, destruction, and flagrant stamping on each others "rights" in the name of freedom The biggest failure is for all the world to see. 20 years and trillions of dollars in Afghanistan to export your brand of freedom and politics, only to leave with tails between your legs in shame. You can take your brand of "basic human rights" and go away, while we can relax and work out our own way of freedom.

 

[Teamjlf]

Wow… this is turning into 1 hell of a shit show here…
I thought this was about us versus the virus. Seems we humans always find a problem for every solution. We can’t even agree on a simple vaccination program. Maybe powers above have had enough and sent the virus for a reset…… or just for shits and giggles to see how much worse we can make it and how many other of our self righteous petty issues we can use to justify each other’s position on vaccination status.

Seems we’ll always find a way to divide and conquer. This has shown all of us that hubris is alive and well and thriving and spreading faster than any virus. What is 100% certain and beyond debate is that It ain’t the virus that’s the problem here……….

Stay safe and respect.

 

[EuroTime25]

I never thought that it would be possible for people to WANT to be stripped of rights and monitored for compliance.. what a sad shit show of society

Sadly this shows us how the Nazis came into power and put the Jews in camps. All for their own safety.

 

[EuroTime25]

Wow… this is turning into 1 hell of a shit show here…
I thought this was about us versus the virus. Seems we humans always find a problem for every solution. We can’t even agree on a simple vaccination program. Maybe powers above have had enough and sent the virus for a reset…… or just for shits and giggles to see how much worse we can make it and how many other of our self righteous petty issues we can use to justify each other’s position on vaccination status.

Seems we’ll always find a way to divide and conquer. This has shown all of us that hubris is alive and well and thriving and spreading faster than any virus. What is 100% certain and beyond debate is that It ain’t the virus that’s the problem here……….

Stay safe and respect.

I think freedom is what is needed. If you want the vaccine get it, if you dont want one dont get it. Shut the news off and live your life. We have way more in common than we dont. Its the news and politicians who love the devide and control. Best to lower the goverments power and allow the local goverments to be in charge of their own policies. No mandatory medical procedures allowed. Your body your choice. Either the vaccine works or doesnt. If it does it protects you. End of argument. Now lets get back to life and freedom (only in the US seems to be for now). Stay safe and love live and be merry.

 

[theREALgoat]

These people don’t want the pandemic to end…

 

[Rx4Time]

I never thought that it would be possible for people to WANT to be stripped of rights and monitored for compliance.. what a sad shit show of society

No, I do not agree with forcing compliance with vaccines, along with that, I don't agree with spreading misinformation. It's up to the individual themselves to make an informed choice. Unfortunately the internet has been awash with misinformation and half truths as I responded to earlier. Ultimately, if you choose not to be vaccinated odds are mother nature will vaccinate you naturally. Personally I'd prefer to have a controlled reaction to a vaccine vs uncontrolled COVID infection.

 

[R2L]

This photo isn’t representative of what is actually going on here:

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2021/09...e-in-support-of-science-at-hospital-protests/


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[Alan Bourdillion Traherne]

The donkey told the tiger, "The grass is blue."
The tiger replied, "No, the grass is green ." .... <snipped for brevity>

Hey, I like that one. I'm stealin' it. :thumbsup:

 

[Alan Bourdillion Traherne]

Why bother citing documented facts? He obviously knows more then the scientific community, CDC, WHO and us....I'm sure he has some super classified detoxifying combination of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and oral bleach protecting him....

The problem is that the contradictory information that has continually come from the CDC, NIH, WHO, etc.. I think they inadvertently created a massive messaging problem when it could have been avoided. It was initially posited that the 'vaccination' was truly a preventative vaccination when it was not. People have an idea that a vaccination means you cannot get the disease and that was the info that came from the Administration and the alphabet organizations mentioned. Well, its not a true preventative vaxx. It will minimize the chances of you getting Covid, and will mitigate the severity of infection if you do get it, but you can still get Covid even if you've been vaccinated. If they presented it that way from the beginning I think a lot of confusing circumstances could have been avoided. And hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are certainly viable medications for a Covid infection. Humans and animals share many medications between them in varying dosages and compositions, and for various and even differing ailments. We're all mammals after all. (The bleach thing is a joke that folks trot out periodically to be funny. And I understand the attempt at humor, mild as it is. ) One thing that is rather amusing is that when Trump was pushing for the vaxx to be developed and eventually introduced, large numbers of people were determined NOT to get it because Trump had his hands in it. Now those same folks are whining about how everyone should be vaxxed and how it should be mandated to get it. Rather funny.

Regardless, get the vaxx if you feel the need and don't get it if you don't want to. Your body, your choice.

 

[repreg123]

I think freedom is what is needed. If you want the vaccine get it, if you dont want one dont get it. Shut the news off and live your life. We have way more in common than we dont. Its the news and politicians who love the devide and control. Best to lower the goverments power and allow the local goverments to be in charge of their own policies. No mandatory medical procedures allowed. Your body your choice. Either the vaccine works or doesnt. If it does it protects you. End of argument. Now lets get back to life and freedom (only in the US seems to be for now). Stay safe and love live and be merry.

This goes in the right direction. You can have an atheist and Roman Catholic be friends, even though one believes the other will burn in hell for eternity as the other thinks that his believes are delusional. It gets to a problem as soon as you get government involved.
Does the atheist want a delusional believer to rule over him and make laws?
Does the Catholic want a godless heretic to rule over him and make laws?
The anger, violence and separation may start.

We've been so indoctrinated to believe that government is good, that we can't see the real problem: Having rulers that rule over US and initiate violence when not complying with their mandates. Any society that is not based on FREE will and VOLUNTARY transactions will eventually suffer from progressing loss of freedom.

The level of freedom in any given society is directly proportional to the prevalence of Moral relativism in given society. Learn about natural law, and that moral is always objective. Teach your community and maybe one day we can actually be free.

 

[Akilles]

These people don’t want the pandemic to end…

Maybe they should use their own busses, restaurants and work and let the vaccinated people use ours!?

Honestly, you shouldn't force anyone getting vaccinated but other people will suffer if you dont. Maybe not YOU but your parents or grand parents.

95% that's on intensive care for Covid in Sweden today are the ones NOT having taking the vaccine. It costs both lifes and money for the rest of us.

If noone was vaccinated today alot more would have died and prob. lockdowns all over the world. That is a fact. Freedom or not.

 

[repreg123]

Maybe they should use their own busses, restaurants and work and let the vaccinated people use ours!?

Honestly, you shouldn't force anyone getting vaccinated but other people will suffer if you dont. Maybe not YOU but your parents or grand parents.

95% that's on intensive care for Covid in Sweden today are the ones NOT having taking the vaccine. It costs both lifes and money for the rest of us.

If noone was vaccinated today alot more would have died and prob. lockdowns all over the world. That is a fact. Freedome or not.

Does it cost money for the "rest of us" if the fatso next door who is diabetic keeps drinking coke and ends up having to have an amputation?

The problem you're facing is not any specific illness, or the choices people take in avoiding it, but Statism (in this case socialism).

 

[Akilles]

There are thousands of stuff we need to pay for every day that' isn't our fault/concern but thats another subject.

If you call what I wrote socialism, communism, rasism or whatever I don't care. IT IS STILL FACT and more people will die with our thinking.

 

[repreg123]

Akilles you state as fact that if noone was vaccinated a lot more would have died, and therefore there would have been lockdowns all over the world.

What you state is not a fact, but a mere presumption based on faulty thinking. If noone was vaccinated, but the same amount of people who had been vaccinated, would use a proven protocol like vit c + vit d + zinc + ivermectin either as prophylaxes in case of being moderate to high risk, or as treatment as soon as symptoms set in, I would argue that probably many less people would have died than with how things are going with the vaccine.
The conclusion that lockdowns must be a result of higher fatality rates just shows how good the statist propaganda works and how you drank their koolaid.

Demanding people put the greater good over their personal good has always led to totalitarian regimes. Understand history if you don't want it to repeat.

 

[Akilles]

Akilles

What you state is not a fact, but a mere presumption based on faulty thinking...

You have already decided that almost every known leader in the world, WHO and so on are wrong with their "fault thinking". Also the hospital statistics of people died from Covid in the world is also "faulty thinking" and they are spreading propaganda..

Yes, many people might be fat "by choice" and don't exersice as they should, eat junkgood but you can't give them a 30 second injection to save them now can you? It's much harder and deeper problem. With Covid you can get 95% vaccinated for free in a FEW MINUTES. Don't ever compare that with obesity.